TST 2008.11 - 64 Players, 2 Winners - November 30th

Post by **epsy** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:29 pm

You still give much more points to the enemies in Team Sumo

Lackadaisical · Post by **Lackadaisical** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:43 pm

Yeah but there's not just one enemy, my point is that you can give another 'lesser' enemy the kill points while at the same time still gaining an advantage over a more potent enemy. Who cares that I give 30 points to the lowest team who's lagging behind with 400 points anyway, as long as i get to 1000 before the guy with 990 points get there.

Sure you can say that both teams can do it, but it's crazy if a match would be decided by something which involved neither taking a zone nor killing an enemy.

Just to make clear, if you want to have them sure you should put them in, but I think that there is a valid reason to drop them.

K-Yo · Post by **K-Yo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:07 pm

Another thing is that we are all trained to play without the score_hole, it changes the strategy, and less good players could beat better players just by 'controlling' the way they get points...

playing with some rules almost no one used in the last 3 months will make the game random...

Post by **epsy** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:58 pm

I'm not in charge of any team sumo server.

K-Yo · Post by **K-Yo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:27 pm

I know that.

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:14 pm

Since this TST will have a hole score of 10, maybe you can hook up CT Open Sumo to implement this so players can get used to it?

Whilst you're there add BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW 0 & FILTER_COLOR_NAMES 1 they're long overdue.

Maybe WW Team Sumo/Sumo can have hole score aswell, durka ask manta?

I bet at least one person will mess up in the TST trying to get 10pts :D

owned · Post by **owned** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:16 pm

epsy wrote:I'm not in charge of any team sumo server.

who is? and who's distributing the team sumo settings for the tst?

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:21 am

Lackadaisical wrote:Yeah but there's not just one enemy, my point is that you can give another 'lesser' enemy the kill points while at the same time still gaining an advantage over a more potent enemy. Who cares that I give 30 points to the lowest team who's lagging behind with 400 points anyway, as long as i get to 1000 before the guy with 990 points get there.

Sure you can say that both teams can do it, but it's crazy if a match would be decided by something which involved neither taking a zone nor killing an enemy.

/thread

And also, your fortress torpedo argument is flawed. When you torpedo in fort you get into the enemies zone for an easy capture. But, in sumo, using holes doesn't always help you, since you are already in the zone. Sometimes, you can go thru a hole and be stuck in a tighter space and die quicker. Is that worth the 10 points?

I'm not understanding why we should have this...can someone give me a good reason? We've already pointed out a few bad ones.

K-Yo · Post by **K-Yo** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:31 am

Hoax wrote:maybe you can hook up CT Open Sumo to implement this so players can get used to it?

Whilst you're there add BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW 0 & FILTER_COLOR_NAMES 1 they're long overdue.

We already have BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW 0 and FILTER_DARK_COLOR_STRINGS 1 on CTOS

but thanks to ask

about the score_hole, I think we'll do it if the TST will keep those settings, but there is another CT server running under the name of "Crazy Tronners Team Sumo" that has the TST settings someone (epsy?) gave to kyle. (if i'm right)

this server is almost never full, so no need to alterate ctos atm (imo)

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:01 am

kyo oO im shocked

so what's going on here? Is it worth having the holing pts in ctos...so players can see what it's like or is no one going to change thier mind

owned · Post by **owned** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:11 am

why do we even have holing points tho. I see no reason to have them other than the fact that about 3 months ago a major server had them. (and no ones used it for 3 months)

Post by **epsy** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:22 am

owned wrote:why do we even try something new. I see no reason to try other than the fact that about 3 months ago a major server did.

So let's all stay in caves. If nobody goes forward, nobody does.

owned · Post by **owned** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:19 pm

but the fact is that even though we've had it before, no one wants it now.
I'm all for advancement, but when the majority (almost unanimously by the way) doesn't want something, there is no reason to have it.

btw, nice job misquoting me.

Post by **epsy** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:29 pm

That's how I read it.

Nobody complained at that time, and now, some(=you) are complaining about it. You are still not

the majority

, especially not everybody

Shock · Post by **Shock** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:39 pm

can we have a poll for or against score_hole?