Mecca wrote:...especially since such great citizens of the world (Phytotron) are going to get off their lazy asses and do something about it! Yay! \o/
Hoax wrote:Are you going to volunteer to help clean up the coast, Phytotron?
You're missing the point. Yes, some people do volunteer for this type of work, but it's everyone's responsibility to stay informed and educated. Our real job, as citizens and customers who support these companies, is to make sure proper controls are in place to prevent something like this from happening again. If that means changes in regulation and legislation, then that's our job too.
Sine, it is not my job to do anything. Staying informed does nothing to help the problem, and politics are nothing but random lies to get the job and then bullshit performance when in office...
My critical post for a while...
Mecca I have been waiting to say thus for a long time: If you have to say you are one of the ******* nicest people in tron you are obviously not, a troll, and modest.
Phytotron speaking of accurate sources, don't you think finding that text on his website in his ACTUAL transcript would be a better source? (I expect some long winded overbearing comment)
And another thing, if you spent twenty minutes on Yahoo or NYtimes or w/e news site you will become more... No, what I really mean is less ******* ignorant.
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Sorry for flame, but politics and crap like this makes me so aggregated at how ****** up bothsides are, it seems Like Washington and Lincoln were the last of a dyeing breed.
Mkay1 wrote:Phytotron speaking of accurate sources, don't you think finding that text on his website in his ACTUAL transcript would be a better source? (I expect some long winded overbearing comment)
Hard to be longwinded or overbearing when I don't know what you're referring to. What text on whose website?
Mkay1 wrote:Sorry for flame, but politics and crap like this makes me so aggregated at how ****** up bothsides are, it seems Like Washington and Lincoln were the last of a dyeing breed.
What the heck are you talking about? This isn't about politics. It's about an ongoing environmental disaster. The only debate is how much damage is being done, and that doesn't really involve politics; not in the way you're thinking about it.
Ugh Phytotron I meant rush limbaugh
I missed that part b/c it is hard to format posts on my phone
sine: it is mostly not about politics.
But the republicans blame the government for not having fire booms which were made part of a plan in the 90's (I think) to eliminate most of the oil if said disaster happened.
The democrats hammer Limbaugh by making up things/ taking things out of the intended context (after all he is pretty sarcastic so it is easy to do)
What I am trying to say is that both parties are corrupt.
Mecca wrote:...especially since such great citizens of the world (Phytotron) are going to get off their lazy asses and do something about it! Yay! \o/
Hoax wrote:Are you going to volunteer to help clean up the coast, Phytotron?
You're missing the point. Yes, some people do volunteer for this type of work, but it's everyone's responsibility to stay informed and educated. Our real job, as citizens and customers who support these companies, is to make sure proper controls are in place to prevent something like this from happening again. If that means changes in regulation and legislation, then that's our job too.
Agreed. I only wish more people realized this. Citizenship in the United States is supposed to imply certain responsibilities on the part of citizens to do their part in choosing the best leaders and voting in a manner that flows from being as informed as possible to make wise choices.
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My redundancy in other currently active thread here.
Problem is, corporations have overwhelmed and replaced the influence of citizens on their governments. (That is, actual, corporeal citizens; not insane, Gilded Age era, Supreme Court court reporter created constructions of personhood. Corporations are legal fictions, not human beings. The "founders" understood this.)
Indeed, for any government that is chosen by the people, the people have a responsibility to stay informed about current events, historical events, and current issues so that they can choose government officials capable of dealing with these things competently and with respect to the will of the people.
If you fail to do *your* job, then you can only expect failure from your government.
