Ladle 19

Post by **epsy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:28 pm

Rather:

Teams shouldn't be changed at all (except for forfeiting) after the beginning of challenge board creation.

owned · Post by **owned** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:53 pm

Do you seriously want to make it hard for them? If they want, they could just have VcL forfeit and the players in it temporarily join Nw. I'd say to just change the challenge board.

freako · Post by **freako** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:00 pm

owned wrote:Do you seriously want to make it hard for them? If they want, they could just have VcL forfeit and the players in it temporarily join Nw. I'd say to just change the challenge board.

That's why I would advice:

Teams shouldn't be changed at all (except for forfeiting) after the beginning of challenge board creation

*AND* : Players that were signed up for an forfeiting team, will not be allowed to join another team...

EDIT: I'll give another suggestion. ditch the guidelines, make strict rules

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:42 am

So, by joining NW, VCL causes them to forfeit too, then KoD plays TR. How about that? Well, not for this ladle, but maybe something like that would work in the future.

I don't know. I don't think it's that big of a deal since we have a lot of teams this time. And as the amount of teams grows, this problem will grow too, but I don't really have any suggestions on how to deal with it.

owned · Post by **owned** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:41 am

freako wrote:
owned wrote:Do you seriously want to make it hard for them? If they want, they could just have VcL forfeit and the players in it temporarily join Nw. I'd say to just change the challenge board.
That's why I would advice:

Teams shouldn't be changed at all (except for forfeiting) after the beginning of challenge board creation

*AND* : Players that were signed up for an forfeiting team, will not be allowed to join another team...

EDIT: I'll give another suggestion. ditch the guidelines, make strict rules

Well as of now, (considering how constructive you guys were in the rules topic) there is no rule against VcL forfeiting, Nw changing its name, or Nw taking in new players. Since there is none, they can do it. If you feel like making those rules after the ladle then fine. But as of now, nope.

compguygene · Post by **compguygene** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:33 am

We could debate this for the next two years...but before a challenge board is put up for the next ladle, a rule should be decided. Perhaps clans that don't quite have enough fortress players could be advised of this rule, as many don't follow this forum.

Just my 2 cents!

freako · Post by **freako** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:37 am

Well as of now, (considering how constructive you guys were in the rules topic) there is no rule against VcL forfeiting, Nw changing its name, or Nw taking in new players. Since there is none, they can do it. If you feel like making those rules after the ladle then fine. But as of now, nope.

look closely to the challenge board...
When I look to it, I see 2 different teams

And not 1 combined team...

Seems that they forgot to add there players

MaZuffeR · Post by **MaZuffeR** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:00 am

sinewav wrote:So, by joining NW, VCL causes them to forfeit too, then KoD plays TR. How about that? Well, not for this ladle, but maybe something like that would work in the future.

That would mean a team would get a bye in the second round and that makes no sense whatsoever to me.

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:17 pm

as I understand it, MaZuffeR, it would mean that yes.

Personally, I can't spend too much time thinking about Ladle guidelines today, I gots to get me focused for the games!

arilou · Post by **arilou** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:45 pm

Thanks Conc, for walking me through all that whacky wiki-ness to add the ID's
to the square dance on sunday. BTW whoever thought of asking the
question about "what color the bike is" was pure genius. Conc was right
on in guessing that the gold/yellow bike was actually red.

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:08 pm

heh

that wiki captcha question is ridiculous, we should look into a different spot for the challenge board if to add your team you need to know that the bike was red.

pike · Post by **pike** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:54 pm

Concord wrote:heh

that wiki captcha question is ridiculous, we should look into a different spot for the challenge board if to add your team you need to know that the bike was red.

/me agrees
When I was signing in, I just typed every color name that came to my mind. It worked, but I guess this is not the best way to find the correct answer

2020 · Post by **2020** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:33 pm

aha...
yes...
peeps have noticed that players can actually bump around teams throughout the competition...

with current settings
even if we lock a team into a bracket
the actual content of that team is not locked
and i don't see why we have to decide on rules about this
until the software to secure it is made available

that is
we don't have to think about these kinds of rules yet

so
let people bump around
if teams who are present are willing to shift who is playing in their team
let them
+
i know my team won't

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:48 pm

congratulations KoD!

not a particularly well played final, but fun matches

Website · Post by **Z-Man** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:51 pm

Recordings, a whole lot of em. Done as usual because 2020 forgot to tell me his camera config, and I forgot to guess it. Sorry. I'll try the editing solution.

final_kod_vs_plus.aarec
semi2_kod_vs_ct.aarec
semi2_x_vs_+.aarec
quarter_ww_vs_plus.aarec
quarter_x_vs_id.aarec
octa1_ds_vs_+.aarec
octa2_ww_vs_manic.aarec