nanoo nanoo [mexican ufo's]

n54 · Post by **n54** » Sun May 16, 2004 6:22 am

here's one of thousands of links on the recent stuff:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0, ... 33,00.html

if you do a google on it you'll eventually find the released videos from the mexican military

nicolas.b · Post by **nicolas.b** » Sun May 16, 2004 7:58 am

i did a google. found this foto, which looks like some assorted halogen lights looking thru fog and rain. hmmm...

also on a BBC page i found this .RA video, which is seems to need your streamripper project to capture:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/40150 ... aia_vi.ram

n54 · Post by **n54** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:45 am

hmm ok i'll give you a better link:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/feature/MexicanAirForce.htm
it has a lot of further links and also some of the video footage that has been broadcast

and try seraching using "Mexican Air Force Films UFOs" it will give you a lot of coverage - haven't seen any releases of the reports yet though if you see them tell me (hopefully somebody will do good translations to english)

anyway the big part of this story isn't the actual videos themselves, but the level of data and that it is fully confirmed at a high level by the mexican government (the Mexican Department of Defense - under Secretary of Defense General Clemente Vega Garcia) - to put it simple: it is now a undeniable scientific fact that ufos exist (that are not reflected lights, gases, electrostatic phenomena, seismically induced lights, misinterpretated planets or satelites, etc. etc. etc.). the ufo's also showed intelligent behaviour, chasing and surrounding the military surveilance aircraft which made the recordings.

btw the images are from flir radar (forward looking infrared radar) the objects were invisible according to the flight crew but at least some had normal radar signatures.

there has been attempts to disprove it as plasma sparks but it's totally unconvincing scientifically.

oh and btw it's not possible to use Streamripper for real audio stuff like .ram - Streamripper is only for shoutcast/icecast protocol streams (basically Winamp streams in .mp3 and .nsv)

RUDEBOY! · Post by **RUDEBOY!** » Mon May 17, 2004 3:54 am

looks like swamp gas to me

nicolas.b · Post by **nicolas.b** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:01 am

the foto doesn't look like much of anything, but the videos and story are pretty damn convincing...

there is no question in my mind there is life in this galaxy and intelligent life in the universe, simply due to statistics if nothing else. as far as there being intelligent life right here.... hmmm, i'm still undecided....

btw, someone told me a theory that the apes that evolved into hominids were ones that repeatedly ate fermented fruit... and got high. never heard that theory before, so i'm still awaiting details.

n54 · Post by **n54** » Mon May 17, 2004 3:47 pm

nicolas.b wrote:btw, someone told me a theory that the apes that evolved into hominids were ones that repeatedly ate fermented fruit... and got high. never heard that theory before, so i'm still awaiting details.

yeah fermented fruit... it's kinda dangerous: there's alcoholic elephants roaming the african savannah searching for fermented fruit!

and yes one has to watch the videoes, the pictures look like anything. invisible swamp gas at 10,500 feet? if that was a possibility i think the mexican airforce would jump at it

swamp gas doesn't have the tendency to chase airplanes either, incidentally luminous sparks of plasma energy (the most noteable attempt of a "natural" explanation so far) doesn't chase airplanes either

it's hard to see this information other than an empirical confirmation that we're not alone here, unless that is, some government has perfected optical camuflage and found it in some way useful to taunt the mexican airforce

Sherlock Holmes wrote:Improbable as it is, all other explanations are more improbable still.

nicolas.b · Post by **nicolas.b** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:44 pm

n54 wrote:some government has perfected optical camuflage and found it in some way useful to taunt the mexican airforce

well shoot, now that you mention it, a lot of governments do enjoy taunting the mexican airforce. but let's try not to rub their faces faces in it any further, okay?