Consequences of L 36 - Voting Thread

[Word]

The discussion topic won't lead to anything, so I just start this to get it done. Keep it free of personal attacks and vote. If I forgot something, send me a PM and i'll edit this.
Here's the template. Voting closes at 18:00 GMT on 8th August.

Only teamleaders can vote.


1.) The community can punish players/teams even if they did not strictly violate the rules by

• suspending players who are not signed up on the Challenge Board during a game - Yes/No
• banning them* for 1-3 ladles - Yes/No
• banning them* permanently - Yes/No

There doesn't need to be a discussion thread if we just vote on it.

2.) Speeders swapped their teams in Ladle 36. This is clearly not against the rules but it is by no means good sportsmanship. As a consequence of that,

• this time, nothing will be done - Yes/No
• both teams' players will be excluded from the next ladle - Yes/No
• both teams' players will be excluded from the next two ladles - Yes/No
• both teams' players will be excluded from the next three ladles - Yes/No

• both teams' captains will be excluded from next ladle - Yes/No
• both teams' captains will be excluded the next two ladles - Yes/No
• both teams' captains will be excluded the next three ladles - Yes/No
• only the following players will be excluded: <insert name> (<insert number of ladles, from 0-3>)

3.) The outcome of Ladle 36 is declared void. - Yes/No

4.) Sock Puppet Teams

• Teams with less than 3 players are invalid and lose by default. - Yes/No
• Everyone who signs up more than one team will be excluded from the tournament (for a time that has to be voted on). - Yes/No
• only one team per clan - Yes/No

This doesn't affect the players who didn't play for their teams (FoFo).

5.) Any complaint has to be brought up by team captains only and has to be handled handle in private talk between each other (leading to punishment or new rules decided by votes). Any open complains (which will lead for sure to drama) should be punished as for breaking this one rule ! Yes/No


* "them" = players/teams who did not strictly violate the rules but caused trouble

[LucK]

er can I vote since I am the only person who played for my team?

[Word]

er can I vote since I am the only person who played for my team?

yes. it's not valid yet

[PsYkO]

1 - Is cool

2 - Is void since 1 has not been approved (grandfather clause much?)
Also, I worry that a strong sense of bias would be injected into these results. I honestly can't trust the community (that includes SP) to make a mature decision about this one.

3 - WTF Stupid

4 - is cool

[Word]

3 - WTF Stupid

It has been brought up.

[Cody <3]

Hey Word lets delay this vote for a couple days so more guidelines and rules can be added to this vote. That way we cover EVERYTHING and wont have to vote til L39(40) or whateve

[Word]

that's what i don't want to do because more rules would just mean more flaws and more discussions. you all know when you do harm to the tourney. the only thing we need to vote on is who we punish and how strongly.
we wouldn't need anything of this if the teams would have followed all of the already existing guidelines. there's no point in making a new rule for every precedent. it's a simple waste of time. This should be the first and the last time that something like this occurs.

Again: if there's anything missing in my first post, please send me a PM. I hope teamleaders check this thread for updates so there's nothing wrong with that.

[dreadlord]

Gonzap is in Berlin ... i hope woned shows up here, may i vote, too?

[Word]

Gonzap is in Berlin ... i hope woned shows up here, may i vote, too?

I'd let woned vote here...and zap still checks the forum

[dreadlord]

sometimes, yes

[Spook]

1.) The community can punish players/teams even if they did not strictly violate the rules by

* suspending players who are not signed up on the Challenge Board during a game - No
* banning them for 1-3 ladles - No
* banning them permanently - No


2.) Speeders swapped their teams in Ladle 36. This is clearly not against the rules but it is by no means good sportsmanship. As a consequence of that,

* this time, nothing will be done - Yes i think they learn there lesson
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next ladle - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next two ladles - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next three ladles - No


* both teams' captains will be excluded from next ladle - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next two ladles - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next three ladles - No
* only the following players will be excluded: I don't think anybody should be excluded

3.) The outcome of Ladle 36 is declared void. - Yes void it off cause it was wrong what they did

4.) Sock Puppet Teams

* Teams with less than 3 players are invalid and lose by default. - Yes
* Everyone who signs up more than one team will be excluded from the tournament (for a time that has to be voted on). - Yes
* only one team per clan - Yes

[LucK]

1.) The community can punish players/teams even if they did not strictly violate the rules by

* suspending players who are not signed up on the Challenge Board during a game - No
* banning them for 1-3 ladles - No
* banning them permanently - No


There doesn't need to be a discussion thread if we just vote on it.

2.) Speeders swapped their teams in Ladle 36. This is clearly not against the rules but it is by no means good sportsmanship. As a consequence of that,

* this time, nothing will be done - Yes
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next ladle - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next two ladles - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next three ladles - No


* both teams' captains will be excluded from next ladle - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next two ladles - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next three ladles - No
* only the following players will be excluded: I don't think anybody should be excluded

3.) The outcome of Ladle 36 is declared void. - Yes

4.) Sock Puppet Teams

* Teams with less than 3 players are invalid and lose by default. - No
* Everyone who signs up more than one team will be excluded from the tournament (for a time that has to be voted on). - Yes
* only one team per clan - No

[Word]

2.no to all
...
4.no and yes

??
just copy and paste it, then add your answer behind it

(i think i know what you vote for, but i'm not sure everyone thinks the same)

edit: THANK YOU!

[orion]

1/8/2010 3:31 Word wrote: "why do we have to discuss this? the best two teams will enter the finals. Both SP teams don't win if they don't beat the best other teams sooner or later."

[Magic]

who gets to vote on this?
1.) The community can punish players/teams even if they did not strictly violate the rules by

* suspending players who are not signed up on the Challenge Board during a game - yes
* banning them for 1-3 ladles - yes
* banning them permanently - yes(under certain circumstances ie repeatedly breaking rules)

2.) Speeders swapped their teams in Ladle 36. This is clearly not against the rules but it is by no means good sportsmanship. As a consequence of that,

* this time, nothing will be done - Yes i think they learn there lesson
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next ladle - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next two ladles - No
* both teams' players will be excluded from the next three ladles - No


* both teams' captains will be excluded from next ladle - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next two ladles - No
* both teams' captains will be excluded the next three ladles - No
* only the following players will be excluded: FoFo for not comin

3.) The outcome of Ladle 36 is declared void. - No it happened and you cant take away the memory

4.) Sock Puppet Teams

* Teams with less than 3 players are invalid and lose by default. - Yes
* Everyone who signs up more than one team will be excluded from the tournament (for a time that has to be voted on). - Yes
* only one team per clan - No