Statistics

[owned]

I have an idea for the expansion of the ladle page. Basically, after the ladle, we should get everyone to post a screenshot of each match onto either the wiki or some other area. It shouldn't be too hard as although there are a max of 45 possible matches (16 teams with 3 matches per game), each team can just upload their own. Now that these matches are now easily visible on the site, it shouldn't be too hard to now find total points and ppg for each player. We can then make a chart that has the top 10 or so ppg's on it. I could do this calculating for at least the next ladle if no one else wants to.

The only problem is that sometimes people get kills after the game ends. The only possible solution I can think of would be for the screenshot taker to take it right when it says Match Winner. Does anyone have a better idea?

I also think it should be made common practice for a recording of each match to be put on the ladle section in the wiki with a description of what version of arma is needed to play it. (and I guess a link to forecast's games could be added to)

So what do you guys think?

[gawdzilla]

Good idea.

Me and Spook's fav screenshot:

[Desolate]

Tournament MVP voting?

[owned]

We've tried it before and it didn't work well, but who knows how it would go now.

Do you have a plan for how the mvp would be decided?

[Desolate]

It could work the same as the North American/European team votes are working, except with a shortened time schedule. Nominations for 2 days, voting for 3 would seem fine.

[INW]

I have an idea for the expansion of the ladle page. Basically, after the ladle, we should get everyone to post a screenshot of each match onto either the wiki or some other area. It shouldn't be too hard as although there are a max of 45 possible matches (16 teams with 3 matches per game), each team can just upload their own. Now that these matches are now easily visible on the site, it shouldn't be too hard to now find total points and ppg for each player. We can then make a chart that has the top 10 or so ppg's on it. I could do this calculating for at least the next ladle if no one else wants to.

The only problem is that sometimes people get kills after the game ends. The only possible solution I can think of would be for the screenshot taker to take it right when it says Match Winner. Does anyone have a better idea?

I also think it should be made common practice for a recording of each match to be put on the ladle section in the wiki with a description of what version of arma is needed to play it. (and I guess a link to forecast's games could be added to)

So what do you guys think?

Last year i had the idea of server owner/hosters to use a stats script in their servers so that after each ladle, the server stats can be summed up per player....that idea never happened. :/
This simpler way of getting stats for just kills might be a little easier than my idea last year.

[owned]

I have an idea for the expansion of the ladle page. Basically, after the ladle, we should get everyone to post a screenshot of each match onto either the wiki or some other area. It shouldn't be too hard as although there are a max of 45 possible matches (16 teams with 3 matches per game), each team can just upload their own. Now that these matches are now easily visible on the site, it shouldn't be too hard to now find total points and ppg for each player. We can then make a chart that has the top 10 or so ppg's on it. I could do this calculating for at least the next ladle if no one else wants to.

The only problem is that sometimes people get kills after the game ends. The only possible solution I can think of would be for the screenshot taker to take it right when it says Match Winner. Does anyone have a better idea?

I also think it should be made common practice for a recording of each match to be put on the ladle section in the wiki with a description of what version of arma is needed to play it. (and I guess a link to forecast's games could be added to)

So what do you guys think?

Last year i had the idea of server owner/hosters to use a stats script in their servers so that after each ladle, the server stats can be summed up per player....that idea never happened.
This simpler way of getting stats for just kills might be a little easier than my idea last year.

As this goes on, it's possible that we could have a more sophisticated stat script. Is there a way to include that in the ladle settings?

Does anyone have a good way to format the pictures? My idea would be a link on each match where the link would be the score. This link would go to some other page or maybe just a lower point on that same wiki page. I'm not exactly sure how to set this up though. Also, does anyone know how to make a good chart that could list player name, games played, and ppg? I hear it wouldn't be too hard to make with excel but I'm not sure.

[sinewav]

Concord is working on a Ladle stats-script as we speak. All we really need is more cooperation between server owners to run such a script. It would be nice to have something like free kill's gridstats.com, but only for Ladles. I can't see any reason why we shouldn't have such a thing implemented in several weeks time.

[Spook]

Topic review - Statistics

thats funny you shoulda tooken a screen shot of the first match were i had 24 points and GECA only had 22 pts =)

[owned]

Concord is working on a Ladle stats-script as we speak. All we really need is more cooperation between server owners to run such a script. It would be nice to have something like free kill's gridstats.com, but only for Ladles. I can't see any reason why we shouldn't have such a thing implemented in several weeks time.

In that case, I think the most relevant statistics would be the top 10 or so in each of the following categories: least deaths per match, most kills per match, and most points gained per match (kpm-dpm).

[Desolate]

It still wouldn't be an accurate chart, because many times multiple players were involved in making a kill, but only one can receive the points. And least deaths per match, how would you take holing into account?

[sinewav]

It still wouldn't be an accurate chart, because many times multiple players were involved in making a kill, but only one can receive the points. And least deaths per match, how would you take holing into account?

Just like any statistics, they get better with time. As more data is collected, the results get more accurate. But even in the course of the Ladle you can still get some pretty good data (possibly 12 matches worth). For instance, I would say the MVP of Ladle-33 was Titanoboa. He was in total beast-mode today, and his individual score reflected that. Match that with his number of deaths, and I think you can see how well he really did (this doesn't even include his tactical decisions, like that last no-point hole). Now, imagine stats over several Ladles. The best players and teams should be more apparent.

Aside from the difficulty of getting server owners to participate, we should take some time to consider what it is we are actually measuring. If anyone wants to drop down some formulas to try out, that would be helpful. Can someone post a complete list of Arma-events we can use to discuss this? dlh?

[owned]

Would making a formula actually be a good idea though? I can't explain why I don't like it, but it doesn't seem like it would.

IMO, just providing the raw data would be best.

[Joe]

deaths to kills would be a good stat too

[sinewav]

IMO, just providing the raw data would be best.

Why not both?