I need help with 2.7.1

Swampy · Post by **Swampy** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:17 am

Just had this happen:

timeout! Reason:
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1907 ( gCycle nr. 1907 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 847, name Squirrel ).
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1906 ( gCycle nr. 1906 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 533, name Anumeric ).
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1905 ( gCycle nr. 1905 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1119, name Swampy ).
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1904 ( gCycle nr. 1904 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 971, name Dimbiman>*SFT*< ).
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1903 ( gCycle nr. 1903 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1477, name Your_mom ).
[0] User 6 does not know about netobject 1902 ( gCycle nr. 1902 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1222, name Giant Douche ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1907 ( gCycle nr. 1907 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 847, name Squirrel ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1906 ( gCycle nr. 1906 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 533, name Anumeric ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1905 ( gCycle nr. 1905 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1119, name Swampy ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1904 ( gCycle nr. 1904 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 971, name Dimbiman>*SFT*< ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1903 ( gCycle nr. 1903 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1477, name Your_mom ).
[0] User 5 does not know about netobject 1902 ( gCycle nr. 1902 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1222, name Giant Douche ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1907 ( gCycle nr. 1907 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 847, name Squirrel ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1906 ( gCycle nr. 1906 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 533, name Anumeric ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1905 ( gCycle nr. 1905 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1119, name Swampy ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1904 ( gCycle nr. 1904 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 971, name Dimbiman>*SFT*< ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1903 ( gCycle nr. 1903 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1477, name Your_mom ).
[0] User 3 does not know about netobject 1902 ( gCycle nr. 1902 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1222, name Giant Douche ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1907 ( gCycle nr. 1907 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 847, name Squirrel ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1906 ( gCycle nr. 1906 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 533, name Anumeric ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1905 ( gCycle nr. 1905 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1119, name Swampy ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1904 ( gCycle nr. 1904 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 971, name Dimbiman>*SFT*< ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1903 ( gCycle nr. 1903 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1477, name Your_mom ).
[0] User 2 does not know about netobject 1902 ( gCycle nr. 1902 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1222, name Giant Douche ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1907 ( gCycle nr. 1907 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 847, name Squirrel ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1906 ( gCycle nr. 1906 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 533, name Anumeric ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1905 ( gCycle nr. 1905 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1119, name Swampy ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1904 ( gCycle nr. 1904 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 971, name Dimbiman>*SFT*< ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1903 ( gCycle nr. 1903 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1477, name Your_mom ).
[0] User 1 does not know about netobject 1902 ( gCycle nr. 1902 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 1222, name Giant Douche ).
[0][0] go (round 13 of 40 )!
[0] 3
[0] 2
[0] 1
[0] 0
[0] Dimbiman>*SFT*< core dumped Squirrel for 1 points.
[0] Swampy core dumped Anumeric for 1 points.
[0] Dimbiman>*SFT*< core dumped Your_mom for 1 points.
[0] Giant Douche core dumped Dimbiman>*SFT*< for 1 points.
[0] User 5 timed out.
[5] Giant Douche left the game.
[5] Killing user 5, ping 10.
[0] User 3 timed out.
[3] Squirrel left the game.
[3] Killing user 3, ping 10.
[0] User 2 timed out.
[2] Anumeric left the game.
[2] Killing user 2, ping 10.
[0] Winner:Swampy
[0] User 6 timed out.
[6] Your_mom left the game.
[6] Killing user 6, ping 10.
[0] User 1 timed out.
[1] Dimbiman>*SFT*< left the game.
[1] Killing user 1, ping 10.
[0] Admin: Swampland in 2.7.1 = AMD 64 3000+
[0] Admin: Clients not running 2.7.1 should upgrade
[0] Ping charity changed from 85 to 116.
[0] Deleting objects...
[0] Deleting grid...
[0] A little faster, a little less forgiving
[0] Time: 25.6251 seconds
Sent: 230096 bytes in 2582 packets (8979.32 bytes/s)
Received: 13860 bytes in 294 packets (540.876 bytes/s)
[0] Timestamp: 2005/04/04 18:48:41
[0] Creating grid...
[0] JET entered the game.
[0] MA3A will fight for JET on the next respawn.
[0] MA3A entered the game.
[0] AI_Tron will fight for JET on the next respawn.
[0] AI_Tron entered the game.
[0] done!
[0] Resetting scores...
[0] New Match
[0] go (round 1 of 10 )!
[0] 3
[0] 2
[0] 1
[0] 0

What happened?

Also, I need some help with the rubber settings. I know that the bahavior between 2.7.0 and 2.7.1 for rubber is different, that's already been established in other threads. I have the rubber set to 9 right now on my .1 server, which is pretty high for this release, yet players will die when just tapping a wall at high speeds, as if the rubber was set to 1 or so. At slower speeds, the rubber is too much. What can be adjusted to give a cushion to them when traveling at high rates of speed so that they don't die instantly?

Post by **dlh** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:36 am

i believe that is what cycle_rubber_speed is for

No idea what the first problem is, however. I suppose its the timeout bug mentioned in another thread that i can't find at the moment

Swampy · Post by **Swampy** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:48 am

You've played on the 2.7.1 server, do you have any suggestions on what I should set it to?

ROCK · Post by **ROCK** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:51 am

Swampy wrote:You've played on the 2.7.1 server, do you have any suggestions on what I should set it to?

4 should be good

Swampy · Post by **Swampy** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:19 am

The symptoms of what I'm having problems with is this, the rubber seems to loose it's effectiveness as the speed increases, so if you're going slow you could have 1 second or so to react before crashing. As the speeds increase, your time to react decreases. I've bumped the rubber settings up to 10 for testing, and at slow speeds that's a ton. It's hardly there at all at higher speeds, which makes it inconsistent.

What should I adjust?

Post by **Lucifer** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:32 am

CYCLE_RUBBER_SPEED

I guess I forgot to follow up on this. I decided to check nemo's answer, and that's what led to Breakfast in Hell's recent settings update because as usual, I got excited and other people on the grid had good suggestions.

Anyway, the lower this number, the less effective rubber is the faster you go, it seems. Hell is currenty at 60, the default is 40.

Website · Post by **Z-Man** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:03 pm

CYCLE_RUBBER_SPEED does something different entirely

If you set it too low, approaching a wall will feel like swimming through molasses. It does not affect the rate at which rubber is used up.

Rubber used is based purely on the distance you would travel, not the time. If the rubber code decides you'll move 10 length units less than you are supposed to move by the physics, you'll use 10 rubber. Logically, if you move faster, you use more rubber per second. I see how this can be a problem for servers where the settings allow for a large variance in speeds.

Should there be a new setting to allow all kinds of speed dependent behavior?
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Website · Post by **Z-Man** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:47 pm

I totally forgot about the first problem, the massive connection loss. This is exactly what I was looking for in the bughunt call for help, so this bug has not been fixed miraculously. I'll add it to the database. Damn!