Ladle 18

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:27 pm

Yeah although 7, 11 & 12 had first round games between 'top' teams or whatever you wana call them. Idk about some of the later ladles the challenge boards seem to have gone for them

pike · Post by **pike** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:44 pm

Let's not go back to the middle ages

and do it civilised way - random placing with seeding (can stay as it is - 4 teams, can't meet until semis). Fast and fair.

owned · Post by **owned** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:39 pm

So I guess since all but one agree, we'll make top 4 seeding teams official?

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:42 pm

owned wrote:So I guess since all but one agree, we'll make top 4 seeding teams official?

Sounds good to me.

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:46 am

me too, the placing will be finalized tomorrow as scheduled

lets start a topic to decide how we want this to be done in the future.

1200 · Post by **1200** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:52 am

4 seeds for the 100th time!

@Pike: If 4 seeds have the strongest odds to win the tourny then they should meet in the semis other-wise it is not fair on the seeded teams.

Corn1 · Post by **Corn1** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:33 am

Look I don't even see how it would be fair for a team that has a good chance of winning to not even make it past the first round just because of a crappy random system. As far as i'm concerned random doesn't accomplish anything but defeat the purpose of the finals when you know whos going to win because of the way the bracket was set up.

owned · Post by **owned** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:36 am

Ok we all agree. When seeds are chosen tomorrow, don't take into account the top 4 teams, and also give tr a bye to the quarterfinals.

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:14 am

owned wrote:Ok we all agree. When seeds are chosen tomorrow, don't take into account the top 4 teams, and also give tr a bye to the quarterfinals.

Should CT get a bye too?

...is the "last minute pixels" an actual team that will be playing for sure?

And can -»| please provide a list of players?

Also, who's going to be there later today for the server/team selection? I know I'm not...

1200 · Post by **1200** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:17 am

Corrrn Wroted:

Look I don't even see how it would be fair for a team that has a good chance of winning to not even make it past the first round just because of a crappy random system. As far as i'm concerned random doesn't accomplish anything but defeat the purpose of the finals when you know whos going to win because of the way the bracket was set up.

I don't understand your logic... explain. How is random slotting not fair? Its the only fair way imo.
If a team that has a good chance of winning does not get past the first round it wasn't a good team....

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:13 am

Corn1 wrote:Look I don't even see how it would be fair for a team that has a good chance of winning to not even make it past the first round just because of a crappy random system. As far as i'm concerned random doesn't accomplish anything but defeat the purpose of the finals when you know whos going to win because of the way the bracket was set up.

owned wrote:Ok we all agree. When seeds are chosen tomorrow, don't take into account the top 4 teams, and also give tr a bye to the quarterfinals.

That doesn't make sense?

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:14 pm

I won't be around this morning if you are going to draw teams then.

Lackadaisical · Post by **Lackadaisical** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:21 pm

To be fair being the runner up in a random single elimination tournament doesn't really say anything more than "you're better than those teams in your bracket". For instance: is there any reason to believe CT is better than the other teams that were beaten by TR? It seems to me you could say CT was lucky for not having to face TR early in the brackets last ladle, so why should they be lucky again?

freako · Post by **freako** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:51 pm

DDMJ wrote: And can -»| please provide a list of players?

I still have some days for that
(or did the rules change

)

Post by **epsy** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:53 pm

Challenge Board is supposed to be locked today.