TWC Tron World Cup

ady · Post by **ady** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:05 pm

Soon will start the second edition of the Tron World Cup, and we are inviting you to sign up for it! For more info and signups check Lords Of Destruction website.

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:47 pm

Wow, great color choice for a link. Reminds me of links to nonexistent pages on mediawiki/wikipedia…

SCNR

ady · Post by **ady** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:21 pm

heh, btw have u just looked at the link color? take a look on the web and sign up

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:35 pm

I'm already looking at the web.

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:41 pm

Why should I follow a link to a page that doesn't exist?
I see that some things about the rules are still unsolved, for example what should be done if there's more players on one team than on the others.
I don't like the idea of a referee whose decision is “final”—this is bound to be unfair
Bad experience from the last ITW.
The competition server seems to be down or not on my master, so I can't go in and check the settings.
I don't like something something that tries to legally bond me to set rules for some damn online game (apart from the fact that this won't work anyways)

Lackadaisical · Post by **Lackadaisical** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:00 pm

wrtlprnft wrote:[*]I see that some things about the rules are still unsolved, for example what should be done if there's more players on one team than on the others.

the web wrote: # In the event of a player imbalance during a match, the team with the greater number of players will reduce their numbers to match the opposing team. Other members of the team may remain connected as spectators and substitutions will be permitted between rounds.

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:32 pm

So if one team shows up with two players and the other one with eight (but ten signed up for both teams originally) it's two vs two and the other 6 people can watch?

Lacrymosa · Post by **Lacrymosa** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:38 pm

As far as I understood it, yes.

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:47 pm

What if 0 people of one team show up? Eill everyone of the other team just have to watch the “Waiting for real players…” center message until the end of time?

ady · Post by **ady** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:49 pm

Why should I follow a link to a page that doesn't exist?

I have used a color font over that link, just give it a click and discover what a link does, btw the server is online, maybe its u that dont see it.

wrtlprnft · Post by **wrtlprnft** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:56 pm

Now it's online, but my data tells me that it just went online (or got known to my master server) some 7 minutes ago.
Yeah, and I was able to deduce that you used a color tag, and was just wondering why.

dez · Post by **dez** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:02 pm

wrtlprnft wrote:
Why should I follow a link to a page that doesn't exist?
I see that some things about the rules are still unsolved, for example what should be done if there's more players on one team than on the others.
I don't like the idea of a referee whose decision is “final”—this is bound to be unfair
Bad experience from the last ITW.
The competition server seems to be down or not on my master, so I can't go in and check the settings.
I don't like something something that tries to legally bond me to set rules for some damn online game (apart from the fact that this won't work anyways)

It does - just click it
See rule 8
Referees' decisions are final in most sports. The referee is meant to be unbiased. Admittedly, of course, this doesn't always happen (The Football World Cup being a good example).
Hopefully the new rules will avoid the problems of the previous TWC.
The server appears not to have registered with all the masters - this is something we're looking into now.
There is nothing about you being legally bound by the rules. Simply that you agree to adhere to them when taking part in the tournament. It is normal that you are expected to follow the rules when participating in something

dez · Post by **dez** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:09 pm

wrtlprnft wrote:What if 0 people of one team show up? Eill everyone of the other team just have to watch the “Waiting for real players…” center message until the end of time?

If no-one from one of the teams arrives within a reasonable amount of time, they default that match.

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:13 pm

One point,
'substituitons' may get a little confusing. Really it shoud be as simple as one player entering spec mode as one joins the team.
However I can easily see a situation where eg. the timing is wrong as one person didn't go into spec mode in time, thus resulting in that team having an extra player for a round or so.
Sounds unimportant but what about when the other team loses that round,
'no fair they had extra player' etc. etc.

Also wrtl's point about referee's.

'This event is organised by the Lords of Destruction clan, who will choose the referee(s) for each match.'

How are they chosen, Is there some sort of course on refereeing arma?
Just take a lok at the posts on 'holing' to see that players have different views on gameplay and so how will decisions made by refs be consistent?

One more thing, who ran the last World Cup Tourney? Why is LoD dong it now? Why not just a Wiki sign up page?

(ok 3 more things )

Post by **Lucifer** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:22 pm

Have you considered a minimum player deal, where you know you can play with some minimum number of players (provided they show up, of course). Say that number is 3, and you show up with 5. Your opponent shows up with 2. You reduce to 3 players.

I don't know, it's tricky to work out where everyone that signs up and shows up can play without having a team get slaughtered because half their team didn't show up for whatever reason.

Not that I care, no time for tournaments right now.