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wow....... the earth has stopped rotating i want 50 percent off the price of my next telescope.........oh and [fe] are ready for the spoon now bout flamin time.....sigh
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Sorry for the Hijack, this happens around here :)

Luke's document basically says: The earth is fixed. All the stuff happening around us is caused by the aether flowing and rotating aorund earth, taking everything with it. It's the same type of argument as the thing I gave with the General Relativistic Spacetime, just dressed up differently.

There are some omissions as to the scientific proofs of the aether. The Michelson-Morley experiment precicely did not find any evidence of it, Dalton millers repetition therof did find some, but later experiments could not repeat it. The Sagnac effect proves that you can use light to measure rotations relative to inertial frames, but the Foucault Pendulum does the same. It neither proves nor disproves the aether. I could not find what exactly Herbert Ives's experiments were about, only that he was an opponent to the Theory of Relativity, so they probably did have something to do with the aether. But it really doesn't matter that much (unless the Bible also has an opinion on the aether), because the whole document may as well use spacetime instead. It's just harder to grasp :)

There is other stuff (The heliocentric picture does not demand superluminal speeds for far-out galaxies, we know pretty well how gravity works), but nothing of further interest :)

Conclusion: The article gives no (scientific) evidence that the viewpoint "The earth is standing still" is the only valid viewpoint. It successfuly manages to show that it is a valid viewpoint (+/- the aether stuff), but we knew that before. So I'll still use my trusted reference frame where the "aether", should it exist, is at rest, thank you very much :)
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