ladder

[iceman]

I really dont understand the ladder settings and when I setup the nuke zone so I used the default values that came with the program as follows

LADDER_PERCENT_BET 10
LADDER_MIN_BET 1
LADDER_TAX 1

LADDER_LOSE_PERCENT_ON_LOAD 0.2
LADDER_LOSE_MIN_ON_LOAD 0.2
LADDER_GAIN_EXTRA 1


maybe someone would be kind enough to explain them and possibly tell me if these settings are ok ?

thanks

[Z-Man]

They're about right, but can use a little decreasing. They were tuned when we did not have all that many players. Almost none, in fact. So the ladder moves quite rapidly. You can slow it down with
LADDER_PERCENT_BET 1,
then about 100 games are required between players until their score equalizes, it's ten games in default settings. Meaning you can take away almost all of your ladder points in ten games if you beat me ten times in a row
If you want the ladder scores to be comparable with servers that do use the defaults, you should scale down LADDER_MIN_BET as well.
I guess the other settings are still fine on a busy server.

[iceman]

is the ladder any use at all ? I still dont get it

what would happen if I set all values to 0 ?

[Z-Man]

is the ladder any use at all ?

Short answer: no, not really. Well, sort of. To rise high on it you do need skill (or Jonathan's army of bots), but you also need the right play tactics. Focussing on killing noobs every time and running away whenever a player with skill enters works. Playing against high rank players only and winning works, too. And winning here means surviving the round, so on your nuke server you can avoid a round to be counted for the ladder quite easily.

what would happen if I set all values to 0 ?

That sort of disables the ladder. There will still be messages, but no scoring.

[wrtlprnft]

I you wanna get rid of the messages it should be enough if you just remove the strings from the language file

Although I have no idea where the newline after the ladder message comes from. Maybe it's hardcoded so it'll leave your clients with an empty console message.

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   1666 ladder_description              ladder
   1667 ladder_message_entered          \1 entered the \2 list with \3 points
   1668 ladder_message_gained           \1 gained \5 points on the \2
   1669 ladder_message_lost             \1 lost \5 points on the \2
   1670 ladder_message_move_top         and moved to the top!
   1671 ladder_message_move_pos         and moved to position \4.
   1672 ladder_message_stay_top         and stayed at the top.
   1673 ladder_message_stay_pos         but stayed at position \4.

[iceman]

does changing these values have an direct effect on the ladder or will it take time to change ?

EDIT: gonna test this out on my system locally

thanks for your help