SP Clan

[dlh]

I do believe that Lucifer started the quarrel first. Now why would such a punctual man as yourself give Lucifer a bypass instead of calling me the idiot. So you sir, even though quite punctual, are a very rude human being.

You came here and threw out a big accusation blanketing everyone. The fact is that -- no, I (can't speak for others) do not hate your clan.

I asked a legitimate question...

Except that it was not really a legitimate question.

Why do you hate us?

[Tank Program]

Why joo foos hate us?

Lucifer's response to this might have been a bit hasty. He's just one of those people that don't like clans in general. But that's irrelevant. What I don't like about this is the implication that all of us, yes, all 750+ of us, "hate" you, which frankly, is absurd. I know sometimes it feels like everyone hates you, but in that case why drag the rest of the clan in? I don't have anything against you guys. In fact, I'm good friends with at least one guy in the clan. Yeah, Self Destructo and I, we're mates.

Well, now I have something against you personally, that you've come onto my forums and called me a fool, as well as calling several of my good friends fools, and well, calling everyone a fool. That, with a bit of imagination, is like Hitler calling the Jews inferior. Which of course, no one was really happy with, and so can you wonder that some people here are a bit ticked off? To be judged by someone who's essentially random, and then to have you ascribe some attitude onto us which we really don't subscribe to most of the time? (Although now...)

But, I'm not one to hold a grudge. There's no reason not to apologize, is there? In all truth, you really did start this.

[Fonkay]

I think your list is flawed. I know people who are in SP who aren't on ur list. Such as Loki. As for Alien, he does go around with an SP on his name, although I have no idea if he's actually SP.

[Walking Tree]

as far as I know, aliien is GP, and GP is the clan whose people I like most. This doesn't mean I don't like SP, or I like GP.

[~*PsYkO*~]

Wow you guys have might misconstrued (sp?) judgement. Loki is not on our roster because he left the clan. Let's leave the roster out because that roster is correct and up to date and your knowledge is not, so it is false and should be left out.

As far as Lucifer and the "leet speak"...I'm surprised you spent so much time typing that because I'm betting no one bothered to read it.

Fonkay: If there is an Alien with SP tags on he is an imposter...if he is swearing around your servers and attacking your people he is not assosciated with us. Maybe you have gotten the wrong idea about our clan by a coupole people because we have had a lot of imposters going through different servers making our clan look bad.

Walking Tree: If you don't mind me asking..Why do you portray GP as "the clan whose people you like most?" As far as in the "speed" servers they are the shit in the bucket that no one likes. They come in cursing and we have had to ban most of their members and probably booted the rest a number of times.

Tank Program: All I know about this forum is that its about Armagetron, most of its members are independent players, and for soem reason most of you have a vendetta against us. This is just the information I have been given from numerous sources. You read into my first post too much, It was not meant for everyone registered on this forum, it was meant for everyone registered on this forum who does not like SP and I just wanted to know why.
I want to know is it because unruly members were coming into your serveers and joking around? Is it jealousy? Is it because you thinkt hat because we play in speed servers you want to belittle us? I just want to know so I can work it out.
As far as the Hitler comment I'm a little offended at because I am jewish and I did have ancestors die in the Holocaust so I don't appreciate that comment.

To all: Since when did "fool" become such an auful word that you can't live life being called that?

[Raoul Duke]

i dont like sp because of almost every single member's arrogant snotty attitude about beating people at an open source game.

But its ok. The server doesnt show up on my list.

[Tank Program]

Tank Program: All I know about this forum is that its about Armagetron, most of its members are independent players, and for soem reason most of you have a vendetta against us.

Then why not say something along the lines of "Hey everyone, I know I don't know too many of you personally, but it seems like I get bad vibes off of a lot of you, what's up?" That would have been much friendlier and gotten you the answers you were looking for.

This is just the information I have been given from numerous sources.

So you don't bother to research yourself? Read around some?

You read into my first post too much, It was not meant for everyone registered on this forum, it was meant for everyone registered on this forum who does not like SP and I just wanted to know why.

As I said before, you could have asked a lot more nicely, and not come across so... Well, not so nice.

I want to know is it because unruly members were coming into your serveers and joking around? Is it jealousy? Is it because you thinkt hat because we play in speed servers you want to belittle us? I just want to know so I can work it out.

Should have said this before instead of immediately instead of what you did.

As far as the Hitler comment I'm a little offended at because I am jewish and I did have ancestors die in the Holocaust so I don't appreciate that comment.

You're a little offended? I'm a little offended. You come in here and essentially disrespect everyone here, which by the way, does include the entire Armagetron development team, and then get offended when people try to clue you in?

To all: Since when did "fool" become such an auful word that you can't live life being called that?

As far as I know, I'm the only person that made this point, and it doesn't. What ticks me off is your assumptions coming in here, and the tone of your message.

[KamP]

Personally, i'm still surprised by his reply to Lucifer's first quick snap, about his 3000 posts
I mean, him doing some developing, you'd think he'd realize some of those 3000 would be in the dev forum, and probably did make some of our lives better.

i've got to say, there's at least one clan that i like
3gr clan
great clan
they talk brashly, in capital letters and usually all three go around together
and best of all, all three suck
so you can kill all three, and then turn down clan invites
i never did like clans, and that's why tron's so great, it's not like some other games where you find yourself stuck if you don't have a clan.

Don't like this topic either

on the other hand

As far as the Hitler comment I'm a little offended at because I am jewish and I did have ancestors die in the Holocaust so I don't appreciate that comment.

You can imagine my offense at all the people that talk about drugs, because i have many, not ancestors, but cousins, uncles, aunts, killed by drug dealers. I have many friends who've got cousins, uncles, aunts killed in Palestine. But. If the Holocaust comes up. And someone like me voices their opinion that it's just not as important as slavery. As racism. As drugs. As AIDS. I get killed, crucified, destroyed for that. There have been larger genocides for worse reasons than the Holocaust.I get killed, crucified, destroyed for that.
Now I'm not saying that the Holocaust was a good thing. But when it's used as leverage to create and justify your own Holocaust. Well. Two wrongs don't make a right, huh?

Will this topic ever be closed, or at least changed to "rant about clans"?[/quote]

[Lucifer]

As far as Lucifer and the "leet speak"...I'm surprised you spent so much time typing that because I'm betting no one bothered to read it.

Heh, you don't really think I'd spend all tht time writing it out like that, do you? There are numerous translators available, all you have to do is google.

[Self_Destructo]

PSYKO SHUT UP!!!!!

I don't indorce his attitude and 98% of my clan does not. fyi guys, I am the SP Clan tron controller. Yes, maybe I don't feel welcome in some cases here, but that is not my problem. I just come here to do what I need to do and just stay away the rest of the time.

And to you psyko, ^^ read again.... oh.... and you are going against some of the rules with some of your posts.

Tank... I'm sorry about this.

[Lucifer]

Thanks for posting that three times. It was very satisfying to read.

(no sarcasm, I'm serious about that!)

In other news, looks like the forum move got off fine with a minor smtp problem. So y'all don't reflexively hit refresh when the forums fail to send email notifications, ok?

[Self_Destructo]

OK, No problem... sorry about that I should went to see if it posted it or not.

[Z-Man]

Thanks, SD!
I can't really contribute anything to the discussion except that we (=all AA players) certainly don't hate you (=all of the SP clan).
But you know that already

[iceman]

[Self_Destructo]

Thanks, SD!
I can't really contribute anything to the discussion except that we (=all AA players) certainly don't hate you (=all of the SP clan).
But you know that already

Of course I did. I've got some lifetime buddies in here.