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Fonkay wrote:
Luci wrote:remove the line breaks that don't need to be there.
What's a line break?
When I look at the text under the pictures, there's arbitrary breaks, so it's not a complete paragraph.
What's a tooltip?
When you hover your mouse pointer over something, and then a box appears with some text in it to describe that something. They're most common on toolbars. In my firefox browser, if I hover over, say, the refresh button, I get a little box that says "Reload current page". That's a tooltip. They annoy me, but they've become standard practice in applications. When you set a title attribute for an image in an html document, your browser is supposed to render it as a tooltip. IE will do it with alt text, which it's *not* supposed to do.
Luci wrote:Web Pet Peeve #1232524123: Extra boxes that appear only when I hover over things.
Is that refering to my site? or others? And if it's mine, where are these crazy extra boxes?
It's what you're wanting to do. :) The problem with it, besides getting it to work in all browsers, is that it's not very intuitive. It just doesn't make sense, but people do it because it's "neat". But that's all it is. It's more useful to just put whatever it was you wanted in these special boxes on the page directly, or provide links to pages that contain the same content. It may not be your favorite thing in the world, but it's more useful to users that way.

You have to ask yourself the age-old question, "I can do that, but should I?"

I'm with you on popups, mostly. But there are occasions when they are actually a good idea, and what you're wanting is such an occasion, if you absolutely refuse to just put the text on the page with the paintings. It's useful if you make it a small box that's clearly a dialog, make it appear only when the user clicks on it and *never* automatically, strip out all the browser stuff (the toolbar, urlbar, etc), and include a link to close the window. Then it's a dialog, and it makes sense.

I'm a big fan of gallery pages that have captions to explain the picture. I also like what MediaWiki does, where it shows the picture scaled to a certain size to fit on the page, and then you can click on the picture to see the raw image--in the same window. The same layout can have caption at the bottom describing the picture (and on Wikipedia you'll see some license information on each one) or saying whatever it is you wnted to say about it.

On my own site, for music, I just put a Download link. So it was song title on a line, then the download link, then the paragraph talking about the song. The same thing would work for you, with the difference being that people expect at least a thumbnail when the content is image-oriented.

Hmmm, if I haven't started making sense yet then you probably need someone else to help you. :( I don't know that I'm going to make more sense than I am right now. Trying, though!
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Post by Walking Tree »

This conversation is confusing me :oops:

anyway: what you want is info in the picture to pop up when the mouse is over the picture. I agree with lucifer that this may make the site "cool", but it can be annoying. IF you really want to do it, you don't need javascript. you can actually do it in CSS.
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/testMenu.html describes something similiar (pop-up menus) which could easily be adapted with sufficient html and CSS knowledge.
so you can try to do it yourself or ask me, angel, iceman or the general public for help but BEFORE that, think about whether you really want it.

If you have higher-resolution pictures of your artwork, you should show them. make the scaled-down versions aready on the page links to the full-scale versions.

line breaks: lucifer said that your web page contains new lines (like
this (or
this) ) where they are not needed.i cannot see any. maybe you have removed them. in html, a line break is represented by "<BR>" or "<br/>" and are placed automatically by the browser ehere needed (that's what lucifer meant by "let it do its job" or whatever he said)
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Anyone have the time to do up a sample for me? Like angel did with her version of my site, before I changed some things, and then uploaded it to the site itself. That would be great.
On top of the HTML help, I'm also looking for input on what else to add to the site, and what doesn't work. I've never made a website before, and after Iceman's push, I've really gotten into it. Any help would be greaty appreciated.
I wont be all offended if someone comes out and says the whole thing sucks. I wouldn't encourage it, but to each his own. Constructive critisism, differents styles and points of view are welcome.

Like Guestbooks/Comments do people like them, or are they as annoying as they seem? I personally don't use them, but do most people?
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I personally think that with art, comments are a good idea. I don't often use them, but some people do, and it's always good to have some feedback. I know. I've made 3 wallpapers on gnome-look.org and got positive feedback.

on the sample page stuff: i could do something like that. maybe friday or wekkend. i'll PM you when I've got time and nothing better to do.
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:D Thank you muchly!

What's the easiest/best way to do a comments or guestbook page? To mkae something myself from HTML (is that possible?) or to find someone like bravenet and get one from them?
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it's not possible with html. html in only a so-called "markup language" that defines how the site looks. to make comments stuff you need a programming language like php. you can either download code from somewhere or ask someone to do it... (or do it yourself, but i'd lern html first.)
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cAn you also makea new website for me plz?
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