Ladle 100 [Official]
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i like the idea of winner takes all in the grand finals.. imagine the upper brackets winner simply wins the first series. for me, that takes a lot of the excitement away. i'm not sure about giving the upper brackets winners a match advantage either. it is true however, that the winner bracket finalist usually gets some sort of advantage. how to do that in armagetron is another question... maybe give them the choice of the final server? (eu or us)
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Re: Ladle 100 [Official]
I looked into my NYC server,
I guess something with the networking in New York sucks right now. (the 174 ping should be about 7)
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I guess something with the networking in New York sucks right now. (the 174 ping should be about 7)
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Re: Ladle 100 [Official]
I couldn't make it but I'm glad this turned out wellalgid wrote:PS Slov no show to the event he hyped up?
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This is actually the perfect suggestion. I'd agree to that.Pre wrote:it is true however, that the winner bracket finalist usually gets some sort of advantage. how to do that in armagetron is another question... maybe give them the choice of the final server? (eu or us)
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Good ideas guys. I looked at the flow and I think flipping the 2nd round matches would create greater separation and might be a simpler solution. Image attached. Also in the image I have written hints for those who get lost editing the bracket. It's kind of confusing even for me and I have a lot of experience!Magi wrote:So regarding to ladles a possible fix could make opening round losses move to the opposite side.
The biggest complaint (always a big complaint) is the length of Ladle. I think we should enforce single matches for all Lower Bracket meets and make the final Best of 3 only. This goes against traditional double-elimination, but we must do what we can to make an exciting event and not wear people out.
I would allow the undefeated to choose ANY Ladle server, since ALL of them will be available.vov wrote:This is actually the perfect suggestion. I'd agree to that.Pre wrote:...maybe give them the choice of the final server? (eu or us)
Good discussion. The sooner we decide on next Ladle the sooner I can get to writing the documentation and re-writing my server distributor.
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Re: Ladle 100 [Official]
It was most fun Ladle in a loooong time, even though I am having the worst day ever at work today The Ladle took almost exactly 6 hours, it ended 1:40 AM here I think even with 8 teams we should start Ladles at least 45 minutes earlier.sinewav wrote:I love to admit when I am wrong, this was an epic Ladle. It went much better than I expected. From the feedback I received in game it looks like almost everyone had a great time.
Double elimination was great, though at one point the brackets were all over the place.
And for those who missed the final, I recorded it and uploaded it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNb7EJ_NGE
(I forgot to turn sound effects on, so I quickly added some retro music instead)
edit: gz m&m
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Re: Ladle 100 [Official]
Aw man no ddos this time around
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First of all I want to thank the people that filled my Open Team For Everyone (OTFE lol) quite spontaneously. Pretty good matches we had there. To be honest I didn't expect that we win that clear against mU at first (even tho they had a couple of problems with lag).
Now to double elimination, I liked it although I didn't make our double elimination match against CT Alpha it was a good idea. Everyone was a little confused about it in my team but that is my fault. I didn't get the brackets right I think that comes with time if we keep it double elimination.
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Now to double elimination, I liked it although I didn't make our double elimination match against CT Alpha it was a good idea. Everyone was a little confused about it in my team but that is my fault. I didn't get the brackets right I think that comes with time if we keep it double elimination.
I'm not to sure about the US starting times, but I would even say that we should make it even earlier. When you start 45 minutes earlier this one would have ended at 23.55 (11.55pm) o.opike wrote: I think even with 8 teams we should start Ladles at least 45 minutes earlier.
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I think starting at 1 pm EST shouldn't pose any harm, there's a lot of sumo tournaments that have started at this time and people don't seem to mind. The only people that might is west coast people waking up at 10 am, but waking up early vs europeans being forced to stay up until 1 am playing tron. So personally I'm fine with starting ladle earlier, as long as everyone gets the memo.
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Re: Ladle 100 [Official]
good match
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Recordings for 0.2.8.3.3, a bunch of them.
Proper final:
final_ctliv_rog_vs_mm.aarec 45696kb 4064s
Upper brackets semi:
semi_ctliv_ks_vs_rog.aarec 26900kb 3239s
Upper brackets quarters:
u3_ctliv_mm_vs_rog.aarec 34976kb 3538s
u3_ctusa_ks_vs_wwa.aarec 46548kb 4762s, starts around 900s
Upper brackets octa:
u2_ctusa_wwa_vs_ctb.aarec 30304kb 3013s
Upper brackets octa and opening together 'cause I missed the switch:
u12_ctliv_mu_vs_otfe_vs_mm.aarec 40708kb 5871s, octa starts around 3900s
Proper final:
final_ctliv_rog_vs_mm.aarec 45696kb 4064s
Upper brackets semi:
semi_ctliv_ks_vs_rog.aarec 26900kb 3239s
Upper brackets quarters:
u3_ctliv_mm_vs_rog.aarec 34976kb 3538s
u3_ctusa_ks_vs_wwa.aarec 46548kb 4762s, starts around 900s
Upper brackets octa:
u2_ctusa_wwa_vs_ctb.aarec 30304kb 3013s
Upper brackets octa and opening together 'cause I missed the switch:
u12_ctliv_mu_vs_otfe_vs_mm.aarec 40708kb 5871s, octa starts around 3900s
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u12_kyle_tunk_vs_rog_vs_red.aarec 71080kb 8081s, octa starts around 4900s
Upper brackets openings:
u1_ctusa_wwa_vs_blm.aarec 21012kb 3023s
u1_geneger_pru_vs_ctb.aarec 25876kb 2705s
u1_geneny_cta_vs_mm.aarec 37680kb 3939s, starts around 700s
Lower bracket rounds (how do we call them? final 1 and 2, semi 1 and 2...? I just went with the round number for now.)
l6_zfr_mm_vs_ks.aarec 18676kb 1945s
l5_zfr_wwa_vs_mm.aarec 13460kb 1299s
Upper brackets openings:
u1_ctusa_wwa_vs_blm.aarec 21012kb 3023s
u1_geneger_pru_vs_ctb.aarec 25876kb 2705s
u1_geneny_cta_vs_mm.aarec 37680kb 3939s, starts around 700s
Lower bracket rounds (how do we call them? final 1 and 2, semi 1 and 2...? I just went with the round number for now.)
l6_zfr_mm_vs_ks.aarec 18676kb 1945s
l5_zfr_wwa_vs_mm.aarec 13460kb 1299s
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l2_geneger_pru_vs_ctb.aarec 9512kb 1173s
l2_geneny_cta_vs_otfe.aarec 18232kb 3369s, starts around 900s
l2_zfr_tunk_vs_red.aarec 12788kb 1704s, black screen bug for quite a bit at the beginning, stops around 650s when I reconnect
l1_geneger_blm_vs_pru.aarec 7028kb 875s
l1_geneny_cta_vs_mu.aarec 6424kb 1028s
Phew.
l2_geneny_cta_vs_otfe.aarec 18232kb 3369s, starts around 900s
l2_zfr_tunk_vs_red.aarec 12788kb 1704s, black screen bug for quite a bit at the beginning, stops around 650s when I reconnect
l1_geneger_blm_vs_pru.aarec 7028kb 875s
l1_geneny_cta_vs_mu.aarec 6424kb 1028s
Phew.