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Sorry Olive, but I must fix your error
Olive wrote:#2. _~R~_
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S: motivated, high team synergy, play with a smile, lacka's experience
W: not serious enough, fluctuating performance, lack of experience
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However, all in all nice predictions so far, I really like reading predictions.
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Opening Round
CTb(0) vs. Pure Luck(2) - pL lost to 3t last ladle, but I think they will have no trouble in this matchup, especially in a EU Pokémon(0) vs. Open Team(2) - I'm assuming Pokemon is just a VcL team, and this open team is a lot stronger then most, so Open team should be able to beat them
Speeders(2) vs. Team Elite(0) - Even with there ladle win last ladle, they are still not on the level SP is.
Speedhax(2) vs. Xenocide(0) - Haven't really seen anyone from Xenocide play much fort at all
CTa(1) vs. Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2) - Tx keeps getting stronger, adding liz+eckz last ladle, and Titanoboa this ladle. Assuming they all show up, Tx will win.
RoadRunnerZ(0) vs. Team.uNk(2) - inb4 bias
United Noobs of Armagetron(0) vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_ (2) - Pretty sure R took this as a warmup match for uNk, and won't have any trouble with uNa.

Quarter Finals
Revolver(2) vs. Pure Luck(0) - It will take a lot of patience, sweepers being able to block holes, and a US server where the EU players of Revolver are lagging a lot to beat Revolver.
Open Team(0) vs. Speeders(2) - Speeders will continue to be strong, looking forward to their match against Revolver.
Speedhax(0) vs. Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2) - Not even sure SP1 could beat this Tx team.
Team.uNk(1) vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_ (2) - This matchup depends on who plays for each team and from what I have heard, I think R will have the advantage.

Semi Finals
Revolver(2) vs. Speeders(1) - Speeders definitely has a chance here and I think they can win a match, but I do not think they will be able to win 2.
Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2) vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_(1) - R might win if poke plays, but without poke, they will have their hands full.

Finals
Revolver(2) vs. Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (1) - This will be an incredibly close match, but Revolver, assuming they play the same they did last ladle, will be able to win.
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I think open team wins.
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Losing some Key players from revolver doesnt make them as solid as I think but Hey there just incredible biased decisions and I for one share cronix's dream of cta and b playing in finals :D
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J Dawg wrote:Losing some Key players from revolver doesnt make them as solid as I think but Hey there just incredible biased decisions and I for one share cronix's dream of cta and b playing in finals :D
Ladle Challenge Board wrote:Revolver (Freako, Free Kill (freako@forums, dlh@generalconsumption.org), Bellum, Concord, Dreadlord, Hoax, Olive, Xyron)
Ladle 55 wrote:Revolver (Concord, Dreadlord (Concord@forums, dreadlord@forums), Bellum, Freako, Free Kill, Hoax, Olive, Xyron, )
Who exactly did they lose?
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if you've got a half hour to kill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsO-tHu-PT8
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Opening Round

CTb vs. Pure Luck

After playing CTb personally last ladle, I find this team just not as competitive as they probably should be. I see no way they can win this. pLx also has that revenge factor, so I think they'll be just fine in getting by this one.

CTb (0) - Pure Luck (2)

Pokémon vs. Open Team

After being thoroughly ashamed by this team being unable to spell "Gyarados," I can't in my right mind pick them to win. Even then, this open team probably plays a lot more than this supposed vcl team does.

Pokémon (0) - Open Team (2)


Speeders vs. Team Elite

SP's main team has fallen just a little bit off the main course, but they are still a really strong team, and even though 3t had a great win against pLx last ladle, SP is better and more prepared for them. However, I would not be surprised if Team Elite steals a match from them given the team setups. Call it a hunch, but if this was in US, I think Team Elite could steal a match, and possibly the round from them.

Speeders (2) - Team Elite (0)

Speedhax vs. Xenocide

I think the only people I see from Xenocide is Ritsuka... That's not saying much for their ladle hopes...

Speedhax (2) - Xenocide (0)

CTa vs. Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats

By my understanding, this CTa team will again be without wap, a key piece to their team. Cronix is a decent def to replace him, but he definitely prefers sweeping and with no other capable defenders, they have a weak spot on their defensive side because of it. Not only that, but tx is continuously stacking players, adding 3 that would start on nearly every other team in this ladle in liz/eckz/titan, this team just won't be able to be stopped this early or this would have been a complete bust for them. CTa will start off a little slow, and that won't help them at all.

CTa (0) - Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2)

RoadRunnerZ vs. Team.uNk

I really want rz to succeed, but they can't get any breaks on their matchups...

RoadRunnerZ (0) - Team.uNk (2)

United Noobs of Armagetron vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_

I think R will be fine, regardless of how many and who shows up for them. This uNa team looks like it might be unprepared, given they had to appeal in order to play in this ladle.

United Noobs of Armagetron (0) - _~Rogue Tronners~_ (2)

Quarter Finals

Revolver vs. Pure Luck

Revolver is the next powerhouse team, already winning their first ladle appearance, and Pure Luck just doesn't seem to have enough consistency to be able to keep up with them. Not to mention this is US, and Revolver can balance that out very well with their players.

Revolver (2) - Pure Luck (0)

Open Team vs. Speeders

Open Team just doesn't stand a chance against Speeders...

Open Team (0) - Speeders (2)

Speedhax vs. Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats

Speedhax is a solid team for a second team in a clan. Matching up against tx, that only "solid" team will be shown their weaknesses from a tx team looking for a ladle win.

Speedhax (0) - Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (2)

Team.uNk vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_

This one will probably be close, and depend on who plays for who. R is without Red, and more than likely without poke, but who will be there for uNk? No one really knows until the day of, that's often concerning especially for a team looking for ladle victories. I'm not sure about this one, but I don't think it'll matter who wins it, because they won't have much of a chance next round. Here, I'll go with my bias. I think R will be able to overcome their disadvantages, especially since it's in a US server.

Team.uNk (1) - _~Rogue Tronners~_ (2)

Semi Finals

Revolver vs. Speeders

Speeders is good, but if a team full of unk's and sp's best couldn't steal a match in the finals, I have doubts they'd be able to steal one here. Revolver is just too powerful and showed very few weaknesses, the main one to watch though, will be their center. It's arguably their biggest, and possibly only weak point without a true center. This might not be as important, given their defender could just bottle the opposing center in, but it's definitely something to watch for if you want to see this team get beat.

Revolver (2) - Speeders (0)

Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_
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Tx is a powerful team, with their biggest weakness probably being their defender, Deso, and that's not even that bad of a weakness. The problem is, they might self-implode. Given the team setup, there is a big possibility that things play out differently just off of one little thing. If they get ruffled, they could be in trouble. Luckily for them, R will probably be without two of their core players on the defensive side in Red and Poke. Although poke could show up late, the odds are unless he has to play, he won't. I'm not expecting too much of R, but they're going to have players possibly out of place to accommodate for their lack of starting sweep. This only can help tx, and hinder R. However, in order to not have the same exact predictions as elmo, I have to pick an upset somewhere and this is the only place I feel I can pick it. I honestly believe tx will win, but this is just one of those things to make the predictions a little more interesting.

Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats (1) - _~Rogue Tronners~_ (2)*

Finals

Revolver vs. _~Rogue Tronners~_

Regardless of who shows up here between tx and R, I don't think either will be able to compete with Revolver. Both teams in tx and R, however, have an advantage that they have good centers. Centers caused problems for Revolver last ladle, and they won despite those issues. Revolver can survive very well, however, and I believe they'll have center issues tied down by the time the finals roll around. R, again, will be without their main team, and if their main team couldn't beat Revolver last ladle, although they came very close and arguably could have won, a team that lacks poke and Red probably won't be enough to keep up with them.

Tx has the better matchup against revolver, having solid players everywhere, much like them, they'd keep things very interesting. The last thing we want is another relatively dull finals, which revolver and R might end up becoming. Either way, Revolver is the best team in this ladle until proven otherwise, and tx is right behind them.

Revolver (2) - _~Rogue Tronners~_ (0)**

*I honestly believe it will be Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats winning 2-0, but again, for my main predictions sake, I want something at least different from elmo's.

** Revolver wins 2-1 against Twi¦×¦ted ¦×¦ats, as the stars indicate my actual beliefs.
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Concord wrote:if you've got a half hour to kill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsO-tHu-PT8
Amazing video Concord.
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Conc, even if I may disagree with some points or doubt your ability to "know" all of our intentions, it still is a very well made video and I really do appreciate the effort to look beyond just actions and look for their intentions behind them. On a more tangible note, I also really like the way you pause the recordings to give yourself the time to explain the full of your thoughts. The video is very well made, as well as the time, effort, and thought behind it.

This video also really gets me interested in the idea of players recording themselves playing it, and then commenting on them in the same manner that you did. The only difference is that they could actually reveal their true intent behind each action, each turn. Not only do I think it would be a lot of fun to make these videos (at least for me), but I think they could be of monumental importance in ramping up the quality of thought that goes into each game, and thus the quality of each game itself. Gosh, especially with some of the really amazing/ballsier players out there, I would love to hear their thought processes behind what they do while seeing it happen.
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J Dawg wrote:Losing some Key players from revolver doesnt make them as solid as I think but Hey there just incredible biased decisions and I for one share cronix's dream of cta and b playing in finals :D
I heard that some players think Eckz and Liz played for Revolver last ladle. Well, they didn't, so what Elmo said is the truth.
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PokeMaster wrote:Conc, even if I may disagree with some points or doubt your ability to "know" all of our intentions, it still is a very well made video and I really do appreciate the effort to look beyond just actions and look for their intentions behind them. On a more tangible note, I also really like the way you pause the recordings to give yourself the time to explain the full of your thoughts. The video is very well made, as well as the time, effort, and thought behind it.

This video also really gets me interested in the idea of players recording themselves playing it, and then commenting on them in the same manner that you did. The only difference is that they could actually reveal their true intent behind each action, each turn. Not only do I think it would be a lot of fun to make these videos (at least for me), but I think they could be of monumental importance in ramping up the quality of thought that goes into each game, and thus the quality of each game itself. Gosh, especially with some of the really amazing/ballsier players out there, I would love to hear their thought processes behind what they do while seeing it happen.

I want to do a lot more with this type of thing, and getting multiple voices is a big part of it. Also, giving multiple camera angles to each play and watching multiple players. This video, although it did take a lot of effort to make, is not the type of finished product I want. It was made hastily in just one day (~5-6 hours depending if you count exporting and uploading), and relative to it's length, that's probably not enough time. I chose R because I feel like I'm pretty familiar with them already, and playing a match against them I knew where some good plays were in that. Also, I think R is the best team that has been without a spotlight recently, so it was a logical choice. I did want to put something out yesterday, and I'm glad people don't think it's crap.
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What camera angle was that in the video?
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