Ladle 52 - "Oh yeah, sweepbox" edition

[Gonzap]

stay mad though.

yeah, so much anger in gonzaps comment

It certainly didn't look like an endorsement.

CT should try it sometime; might help get you back in the game a little. You see, sweep-boxing is just another tactic like holing or centering. People used to complain about holing the way they complain about sweep-boxing, but now pretty much everyone uses it. And it's not like there is no way to counter a sweep-box; it's not an invincible strategy.

It's obviously not approval, but it's also not madness. I'm just a little bored.

I'd challenge you to win a ladle without using the sweepbox just once... but nobody will listen so I rather say gms, gz, and let's see each other again next ladle.

Btw, aot was horrible.

Anyway, we still have sumo tourneys, there you can't hide behind any awesome tactic. Guess it's the last game style where the only thing that matters is pure skills. That's why a cter was on the winning team (or single) for the last (idk 5 or 6?) sumo tourneys. It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

[sinewav]

I'm just a little bored.

I'd challenge you to win a ladle without using the sweepbox just once... but nobody will listen so I rather say gms, gz, and let's see each other again next ladle.

Btw, aot was horrible.

I challenge you to go a whole Ladle without complaining. If you are bored, don't play. Do something better with your time instead of bitching about the server, the strategies, the players, the moon, the stars, and how the planets weren't aligned correctly.

Here is a reality check for you: Sweep-box is not boring. Both SP and mYm used sweep-boxing in the finals and it was fun and exciting, and it didn't take forever to complete a match. It was over in the same amount of time as a final without the box. You know what matches took forever? CT vs Swift. It took twice as long as the finals. Guess what? Neither CT nor Swift used a sweep-box. I watched the entire thing and nearly fell asleep. And after all that CT still couldn't take the game. Maybe instead of complaining about all these "boring" Fortress techniques, you should evaluate your own.

[INW]

Btw, aot was horrible.

It was perfectly fine for me. I didn't lag a bit.

It is obviously your internet's connection to the server, not the server.

And by horrible, you probably mean average lag when comparing that to an American in any eu server.

[Overrated]

It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

I was mentioning how I was more excited for the tst than I was the ladle to a few people a few days before it started.

Anyway. I personally am losing interest in the ladle if that's what it has to be. Sweepbox becomes a wait fest and Swift's early split this past ladle wasn't because they were at a disadvantage and needed to. Instead of adapting, they played super safe, no risks by what I saw. Neither of those options seem fun to me. At least CTA got to attack, where as in sweepbox you won't get that opportunity all the time, unless, you know, wait.

And yes, I am complaining about the tactics used, because I don't like them and don't agree with them from playing with them and against them. It won't mean I stop coming to play ladles though, I still have to win one before I can be satisfied, just not expecting to have as much fun as I used to in these upcoming ones.

Anyways, grats SP for winning, thanks for the good matches to you guys, CTB and OPT.

PS: I made my point, I don't like them. I'm not going to ask for it to be changed because I'm kind of curious who figures out the best way to stop them first. Good luck next ladle all.

[INW]

You should be more excited for a tournament that only happens twice a year than one that happens 12 times a year.

[Kijutsu]

It's obviously not approval, but it's also not madness. I'm just a little bored.

I'd challenge you to win a ladle without using the sweepbox just once... but nobody will listen so I rather say gms, gz, and let's see each other again next ladle.

Btw, aot was horrible.

Anyway, we still have sumo tourneys, there you can't hide behind any awesome tactic. Guess it's the last game style where the only thing that matters is pure skills. That's why a cter was on the winning team (or single) for the last (idk 5 or 6?) sumo tourneys. It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

If we face you next time and both don't use sweepbox, can we hole you? Or can you not handle that either.

[prettylights]

Guess it's the last game style where the only thing that matters is pure skills. That's why a cter was on the winning team (or single) for the last (idk 5 or 6?) sumo tourneys. It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

The only thing i'd like to see is Ct sit out a ladle if it's supposedly so boring to them- definitely too much "raw skill" for this tournament anyway. It's unfortunate that your B team, acting as classy as it does from what I hear, has to look up to such a childish group of players, which hasn't been able to stop bickering since they lost opening round. It's almost sad watching ct players clutter the spec chat with how "f***ing boring" the matches they're watching are (obviously after they've lost) and having to read through the complaints on the forums afterward. It's simple, if you dislike the ladle so much, don't play in it. Maybe it's not for everyone.

Also, sumo is so irrelevant to this conversation that I can only guess that you brought it up in order to try and compensate for your embarrassment. Are you saying the ladle takes no skill? Is that somehow absent from SP and mym? If that's true i can see how you could try to argue that, but both teams are full of talented players (minus flex). Talented players who add strategy to the game. Or did you just want to brag in a topic where you have no bragging rights?

btw, sp found one way to counter our sweepbox since we couldn't even set it up. So, step it up guys. I doubt the servers strictly hate your clan.

gz to sp, our turn next time : D. and also to swift that had an amazing showing for their first ladle. hopefully there can be a positive attitude for ladles again, and there's really no reason for there not to be. if ladle really does upset you, then move on to something else and let those who enjoy it, enjoy it.

[Cronix]

Guess it's the last game style where the only thing that matters is pure skills. That's why a cter was on the winning team (or single) for the last (idk 5 or 6?) sumo tourneys. It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

It's almost sad watching ct players clutter the spec chat with how "f***ing boring" the matches they're watching are.

I said that. And I had my reasons for that.

I doubt the servers strictly hate your clan.

They do indeed hate us, but nevermind.

What I forgot to say was: Congratulations Speeders!

[Gonzap]

As Jack the Ripper would say, let's go part by part:

Guess it's the last game style where the only thing that matters is pure skills. That's why a cter was on the winning team (or single) for the last (idk 5 or 6?) sumo tourneys. It is kind of sad i'm more excited for a tst than a ladle

The only thing i'd like to see is Ct sit out a ladle if it's supposedly so boring to them- definitely too much "raw skill" for this tournament anyway. It's unfortunate that your B team, acting as classy as it does from what I hear, has to look up to such a childish group of players, which hasn't been able to stop bickering since they lost opening round. It's almost sad watching ct players clutter the spec chat with how "f***ing boring" the matches they're watching are (obviously after they've lost) and having to read through the complaints on the forums afterward. It's simple, if you dislike the ladle so much, don't play in it. Maybe it's not for everyone.

We do have more raw skill than most of the teams. I'd say we have more raw skills than mym, and at least than you. Do you think it would be any hard to win or make ladle finals every time if we used sweepbox? no honey, it would be damn easy. There is no other explanation for a group of trolls like mym to make ladle finals and win some ladles. Sweepbox is the only reason why you made finals, you won and you can come here bitching (we're not the only ones bitchin right?) all proud of yourselves trying to ground the rest.

Also, I play ladles yeah, and I'll keep playing them because I've won, wait how many? Oh yeah I've won 6. How many did you win honey? How many did you win before all this sweepbox-holing fest? None. Keep being proud of yourself, I feel pity for you.

It was a mistake trying to talk with you bunch of disgraceful trolls about tactics, trying to propose something so we all can have fun. Swift matches were long and boring? they were for you, ask any player on swift or in ct and they'll say it was much better than any match they played against you "mym".

Also, sumo is so irrelevant to this conversation that I can only guess that you brought it up in order to try and compensate for your embarrassment. Are you saying the ladle takes no skill? Is that somehow absent from SP and mym? If that's true i can see how you could try to argue that, but both teams are full of talented players (minus flex). Talented players who add strategy to the game. Or did you just want to brag in a topic where you have no bragging rights?

I don't feel any embarrassment. I am more proud of my boys than you'll ever be of yours. Mym has no reasons to be proud of anything. And yes I'm saying ladle takes no skill, it's all about a good tactic and playing super safe. How's that sills? Yeah eckz has skills, liz too. Who else? you? come on.
SP on the other hand is full of talented players. But they still stick up on a tactic that's not worth them. They deserve more. Someday I hope they find out.

Also, sumo IS irrelevant because it's something to compare with this. Sumo tourneys have been the main events for a long time now. I guess since the sweepbox has taken place in ladle. Seems like the only 2 teams that put a lot of effort in ladle are mym and sp. Because it is really awesome that you sacrifice good matches for a ladle win.

btw, sp found one way to counter our sweepbox since we couldn't even set it up. So, step it up guys. I doubt the servers strictly hate your clan.

Good for them, gz sp twice.
What do you call a server where our defender slides 2 or 3 times each match, that slides in the last round with equal scores, that our player cronix cannot even play because he slides every turn, that even woned with ping 19 slid once, and i and beer had jumps all the time?
The server was bad for us, and bad for our key player like defense. The server was horrible ask anyone in ct. Maybe some swift players felt it too. I am used to lag, I played under lag longer than you and I won a sumo tourney with 200 ping. I know when lag is bearable and when it's not.

gz to sp, our turn next time : D. and also to swift that had an amazing showing for their first ladle. hopefully there can be a positive attitude for ladles again, and there's really no reason for there not to be. if ladle really does upset you, then move on to something else and let those who enjoy it, enjoy it.

Enjoy your wins, because someday you will lose, and the face of the coin will be different for you. I'm waiting impatiently for that day.

Oh btw, this post is all by myself, all the rage it's gonna cause on some of you (I expect you to rage a lot) is all me, no reason to make ct part of it, or even naming my mates because they had nothing to do with this post.

Oh sine, you arguments are jsut as old as my complaints. I didn't expect anything new from you anyway. Have a good day.

Oh spin, it is funny you say that server was fine and it was my connection. I can say the same to you when we had a clan war and you didn't want to play because "the server is so bad for you". There are servers that affect some more than others, you should know that better than anyone else. Same for you sine.

[Kijutsu]

[Gonzap]

Don't YOU worry about us. I didn't attack anyone until I felt attacked.

[dreadlord]

Er, why was the topic locked? Is it always the way that zap may insult everyone and afterwards the topic is locked so nobody can defend himself?

There are only two qoutations I wanted to be relative to:

I don't feel any embarrassment. I am more proud of my boys than you'll ever be of yours. Mym has no reasons to be proud of anything. And yes I'm saying ladle takes no skill, it's all about a good tactic and playing super safe. How's that sills? Yeah eckz has skills, liz too. Who else? you? come on.

With this you insult each member of mym (I don't want to say I feel frustrated because I know that I do not have skill ) and therefore it's just kind of sad that you mention this later:

Oh btw, this post is all by myself, all the rage it's gonna cause on some of you (I expect you to rage a lot) is all me, no reason to make ct part of it, or even naming my mates because they had nothing to do with this post.

Does that mean that CTxGod = Zap may insult everyone, later saying "hey hey, but don't insult me now"? Whatever the case, we won't lower ourselves to this level.

All in all your posts in this topic are kind of miserable and only have to do with your frustration.

[syllabear]

Oh btw, this post is all by myself, all the rage it's gonna cause on some of you (I expect you to rage a lot) is all me, no reason to make ct part of it, or even naming my mates because they had nothing to do with this post.

Does that mean that CTxGod = Zap may insult everyone, later saying "hey hey, but don't insult me now"? Whatever the case, we won't lower ourselves to this level.

All in all your posts in this topic are kind of miserable and only have to do with your frustration.

I think he just means that you guys should not be mad at CT for him making those statements, since he did it by himself as an individual, and not to let it relate badly on the clan. Unfortunately, every action you do in this game, whether on the grid or here on the forums reflects on the clan you are in, since you represent them (case in point, I know that some people are rejected from clans due to "drama" that they have caused in the past and may cause in the future).

Also, I just wanted to say congratulations to SP for winning (before this topic is locked too!), we had some close matches, and I really enjoyed defending against your attackers, especially Fofo, nice cuts there mate . Also teen, y u no die!?

[prettylights]

Do you think it would be any hard to win or make ladle finals every time if we used sweepbox? no honey, it would be damn easy. There is no other explanation for a group of trolls like mym to make ladle finals and win some ladles. Sweepbox is the only reason why you made finals, you won and you can come here bitching (we're not the only ones bitchin right?) all proud of yourselves trying to ground the rest.

Do you even like, think before you say anything. You should watch our recordings and see that the sweepbox wasn't even our dominant strategy- we barely used it this ladle. We didn't even consider using it against unk. So, you can keep blaming your losses on a box, and you'll probably keep losing because of it. Also, SP didn't win because of it either- they were way more of an aggressive team than anyone we've played yet. And you talk as if your team doesn't play defensively, yet last time we beat you guys, yall had a double defense+sweep set up.

Also, I play ladles yeah, and I'll keep playing them because I've won, wait how many? Oh yeah I've won 6. How many did you win honey? How many did you win before all this sweepbox-holing fest? None. Keep being proud of yourself, I feel pity for you.

That's cool, so you keep playing to get back to your former glory? That's probably why you won't be having fun anymore. I just wanted to say, though, that your comparison is kind of sloppy. You've won 6, but you've also played in like what, 50 ladles? I've barely started playing ladle this year with mym, and at the moment, it would seem the underdog is rocking you guys.

[Kijutsu]

Boy, am I glad we win the ladle every month. We might lose one day, I don't think I'd be able to handle that.

PS: A cter and mymer are gonna win the next TST, noh8.