clantag abuse

[ed]

And the @forums thing isn't really an options because it proves only that your nick is your nick. if someone would register here as Word1 he can authenticate as Word1. If a group of players does that, where all can trust each other, it is different.

If you look for any kind of certification somebody is from ¦×¦, ask that somebody to log in using @x/member

If you really care, set up your own authority.
Only true x members could authenticate @x/member.

[Z-Man]

BUT from reading these forums it's obvious not enough people care or think there is already something done that fixes the problem, which I can tell you right now is TOTALLY false. This does NOT fix a problem it shows that there IS a problem.

If that is true, then what you guys have failed to demonstrate so far is
a) how any new system would solve the problem better than the tools already given to you in the form of armathentication
b) seeing that slow adoption of armathentication seems to be your main reason for believing it is inadequate, how any new system would get adopted by server admins faster than armathentication
c) how any new system would protect against other forms of faking clan membership, like saying 'lol im a member of pru and you can all suck my dong' or having the clan tag in an (annoying) instachat like the Ww guys have or just putting it at the end of your username (LeaderOfPRU) or using a subtly changed tag
d) how any new system can work around the fact that Player 1 and Player 2 from the examples where they believe the faker and actually draw conclusions about the worthiness of the clan as a whole are just plain stupid.

[AI Teâm]

If you really care, set up your own authority.

i tried to , but you need PHP knowledge , but im gping to learn PHP so , it should be no problem soon

[Z-Man]

If you really care, set up your own authority.

i tried to , but you need PHP knowledge , but im gping to learn PHP so , it should be no problem soon

Actually, you can just use the reference implementation we provide in the scripts folder of the source distribution, forget about fetching users from a database and just plug them into the $passwords array in getPassword().

If the setup is the most difficult problem, we could provide a convenient armathority for smaller clans where players would appear as NAME@clans/TAG and player lists get managed by the respective clan admins. That still draws us into some of the petty clan conflicts, but should be manageable. A distadvantage of running your own Armathority is that it can be spoofed (your URI: NAME@pru.net, faker URI: NAME@pru.com), albeit at a cost (domain registration), the common registration would allow the shorter URI where Tank can make sure nobody can use NAME@clan/TAG or NAME@clanz/TAG.

Now, off you go to find someone who can design and implement such a system

[AI Teâm]

it would be cool if i could it my self but ty for your fast and helpfull answer

[SolaR]

When you have a website/forum, you have a roster.. Anyone who imposters in grabbing a clan tag, who cares as long as their not using your name, just use the poll kick system. Please ask them nicely. If they do not co-operate, Take screenshots, save chatlogs, report it to the server they were in.. You also can't have them be banned from all servers since they only did it in one server.

You should be happy for the fact that Armagetron Advanced is free, not complicated, and enjoyable.

[Sinn]

Well there seems to be confusion on where I stand on this subject. I did not say I had a better idea or think you guys could do a better job at fixing this problem. I'm just saying that Armagetronifacation or whatever you call it does not fix the problem. It does not make it so someone cannot imposter your name or your tags, it seems from reading about it that it merely lets people know that if someone DOES use your name or tags that it wasn't you.

I added how I take care of the problem and I think it's about the best way and most logical.

Other then that I think this topic has been just about talked out. I recomend closeing it or just ignoreing it before we play the "this is the song that never ends" game. LOL!!

[Z-Man]

It does not make it so someone cannot imposter your name or your tags

Yes, and that is because your screen name is just that: your current screen name. A nickname. There are bound to be collisions between nicknames (we have three Lucifers, I think, and several Vipers, and really there is nothing wrong with that), we have people changing nicknames all of the time just for fun. A nickname is not an identity, and nobody should have the right to permanently and globally forbid others from using certain nicknames. Armathentication, however, gives you an ID. That ID is unique to you, and people can check it. Your ID can hold reliable information, like what clan you are in or what your favorite food is. IDs have a certain format and can't be used for 'artistic' expressions so well.

Incidentally, that's exactly how steam games handle it. You have your steam ID, which is unique, and has certain restrictions (no special characters and stuff). And you have your screen name, which is not unique and can have more liberal formatting.

[Sinn]

Durka came to ID forums and explained the whole armathentication or whatever to me, cause to be honest I did not completely understand what it was. Now that I understand exactly what it does i'm curious to give it a shot! It looks pretty neato, and I hope to be able to create something for ID members so that it would be something like Sin@ID somethin somethin somethin.

Although this doesn't completely fix the problem I understand that anything else would be a HUGE hastle and waste of time, and to be completely honest, completely unnecessery.


I see the light. Praise Jesus!!

-=}ID< Sin

[Word]

I'm not going bring the topic itself to life but to make clear that these guys were neither prus, nor Eggman and oddeuro. feel free to ban them. (i asked them to login and they didn't. this happened in swampland)











some months ago i asked Monkey D. Luffy to ban these:





edit: I tried to enter the server again, it was full all the time but i saw them renaming to rev silar/rev juan.... :shock:

[epsy]

Let's make it clear..

who the fakk cares

[Word]

lol

they were there for like 3 hours and insulted every1 that came in. and when someone asked who they are they said eggman and oddeuro (members of us)

[kyle]

i wonder if they are the same ones i banned from Ct's servers today that were faking emphasis

[sinewav]

they were there for like 3 hours and insulted every1 that came in.

Those two guys have been doing that for months. Why do you even care? Listen Word, PRU has definitely earned a good reputation. Like I said before, I'm very impressed (stunned actually) with how successful it's been. I think there is little anyone can do to damage the PRU name - as long as you just ignore stuff like this.

[Word]

ok got it