Ladle 17

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:03 pm

Hoax wrote:Idk..maybe someone should call 2020

The lol

Can we make a poll already? Or are we trying to make a 17 page thread for ladle 17?

owned · Post by **owned** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:09 pm

hoop wrote:that's exactly what I'm saying, by seeding there will never be a non-top team in final: it's not fair

how is it not fair? If your team isn't skilled enough, they don't deserve to make the final.

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:13 pm

You know what? I don't mean to complicate things, but we should have a backup plan for a 9-team ladle since the ~WrD~ team looks like its falling apart

hoop · Post by **hoop** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:55 pm

sinewav wrote:
Hoax wrote:Idk..maybe someone should call 2020
The lol

Can we make a poll already? Or are we trying to make a 17 page thread for ladle 17?

ok, let's start it then
the form is (votes/voters)

my vote:
a) seeding (0/1)
b) randomize servers (1/1)

owned · Post by **owned** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:01 pm

sinewav wrote:You know what? I don't mean to complicate things, but we should have a backup plan for a 9-team ladle since the ~WrD~ team looks like its falling apart

well lacka's plan works with any number from 9-16.

seeding: (1/2)
what do you mean by randomize servers?

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:24 pm

(votes/voters)

a) seeding (1/3)
b) randomize servers (2/3)

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:24 pm

the problem with seeding in the ladle is that there is no regular season to determine who the top is, your just basing it on previous results.

0 seeds
100% random teams
randomizing teams should randomize servers, but like we said befere if it is 2 US teams they should have a US server, 2 Euro teams should have Euro server, that is how we always picked before.

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:37 pm

a) seeding (1/5)
b) random servers (4/5)

owned · Post by **owned** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:49 pm

bad post

hoop · Post by **hoop** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:58 pm

owned wrote:
sinewav wrote:You know what? I don't mean to complicate things, but we should have a backup plan for a 9-team ladle since the ~WrD~ team looks like its falling apart
well lacka's plan works with any number from 9-16.

seeding: (1/2)
what do you mean by randomize servers?

kyle explained above what i meant

K-Yo · Post by **K-Yo** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:38 pm

a) seeding (1/6)
b) random servers (5/6)

Monkey · Post by **Monkey** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:18 am

Why the hell we didn't do this in an official poll thread I do not know. In fact, let's do it. For those that don't know, you can only vote once because the forums keep check of who is voting:

Ladle 17 POLL - Seedings or no seedings:
http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopi ... e144ce139f

1200 · Post by **1200** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:41 am

This has been said by someone before as well and i think 4 rounds in a day is kinda too long.
Perhaps seedings should be used for the next Ladle so that the top 4 teams of this Ladle automatically qualify for the quaterfinals of the next Ladle. And have the other teams fight for the remaining four slots on a different day or something....
So it'd be a good idea to have a 3rd place match between losers of the semis for this Ladle.

Monkey · Post by **Monkey** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:29 pm

owned wrote:
hoop wrote:by seeding there will never be a non-top team in final: it's not fair
how is it not fair? If your team isn't skilled enough, they don't deserve to make the final.

Damn right owned. This is a tournament about skill, not about charity to shit teams.

Also, we get a few spectators in the finals (including me) and some people even asked me where they could get a copy of a replay of the last Ladle final to watch. We want a good quality final, not some crap.

Hoax · Post by **Hoax** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:20 pm

Monkey wrote:
owned wrote:
hoop wrote:by seeding there will never be a non-top team in final: it's not fair
how is it not fair? If your team isn't skilled enough, they don't deserve to make the final.
Damn right owned. This is a tournament about skill, not about charity to shit teams.

Also, we get a few spectators in the finals (including me) and some people even asked me where they could get a copy of a replay of the last Ladle final to watch. We want a good quality final, not some crap.

Monkey wrote:1) The PRIMARY purpose of seeding is to ensure that the top teams do not meet early on.

Then why are you voting no to seeding? You're a (walking?) contradiction

I've editied to challenge board again with my uber leet wiki skills to include 3rd place play off.
I placed it bottom right but it just looks out of place, yet it shouldn't take anything away from 'the final' imo so if anyone (epsy??) has a better vision or can move it alongside the final that would be great since i've no tome right now
I'm presuming teams would want to play in it?
Maybe for future ladles we can have 3 clear cut seeded teams then, finalists & 3rd place (If they have seeds)