Breakfast artwork request

[Lucifer]

Here's what I want.

http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Particle_i ... 349.0.html

On a grid, just like the stock game grid, I'd like a frying egg, sunny-side up, with fire coming up from below the grid. The egg should be directly on the floor, cooking. Would be nice if there were cycles fighting it out near the egg.

I'd like it in a .blend file if at all possible, otherwise I"ll need it rendered as a very large TIFF.

Anybody want to try it? It'll be mucho appreciated.

I want to build a website and start collecting all the breakfast stuff into one place. So any graphics you guys might have in mind, throw 'em up.

(I'll make a fan art section so you'll be able to add more stuff later, so right now I'm asking for artwork to put on the website to start with)

Please, pretty please?

[Your_mom]

blah blah blah... i had a couple minutes to kill and i came up with this... the breakfast looked so much cooler when i drew it on a piece of paperwith a pencil meh if your desperate or think it looks cool feel free to use this, you could always convince root or loc to rewrite breakfast, its so ugly lol

[Lucifer]

I went back looking for you, Mom, and got lost. I hate it when I highlight a server in the master server browser, hit return, and wind up somewhere else. Anyway, the actual title of the website is "Breakfast off the Grid".

Some definitions are useful.

Logo - just a simple graphic that represents the website. The logo should be available in an icon file with all the standard sizes in it as well as a png, and hopefully a very high resolution master. If you just send pngs of 16x16 and 32x32, I can make the icon file from those.

text logo - I'm strongly favoring text logos these days, and just using <h1></h1> to put it on a webpage. So go for background, and if you know a specific font that's available in all browsers, lemme know. I don't know much about fonts.

Logos should be in very high resolution png or tiff format. Think 600 dpi. They'll need to look good printed. I can convert them or you can give them well-sized for web media as well, but I will want to put them on t-shirts and stuff, and they should be 600dpi for that.

background - I'm open to any background that tiles well. I'll probably lay on some alphad pngs or something.

What I'd do with the logo you made:

1. break it into layers.
2. Then I'd lay the background as, well, a background.
3. I'd put the cycle as an alpha png on top of the background.
4. Then I'd use regular text that said "Breakfast off the Grid".

So if you break it into layers or send me a GIMP file with layers in it already, I can do it. It's an animated GIF, right? I might be able to do that anyway. I'll see.

Naturally, when you get right down to it, you can put it in whatever format you want. I'll take it. Beggers can't be choosers and all that, you know.

Other graphics that'll be needed? Beats me. After you see the site you might think of some. Maybe not. But I'll take any graphic you send. I may not use it right away, and I may not use it in a specific place, but I'll take it. What I don't use will get put in a special place called "fan art". It'll be a gallery people can vote and stuff, you know, cool stuff. Typically categories and sections get their own little icons. The other admins might want special icons for their servers (I'm planning on making one for mine based on the moviepack that's in progress right now). Anything you come up with.

For people feeling particularly adventurous, you might make a complete Mambo template and send it my way. Since the site will be mambo-powered, it's reasonable that there could be sections for each server that use their own template, but that hasn't been decided yet. Mambo can do it, though.

[ishAdmin]

oy vey mambo.

you know, it's supposed to be "simple". but it just ain't. I want to set up a site up for my customer using mambo, but the amount of hand holding I'll have to do so they understand how to use it is just too much. modules, sections, categories, menus eek. they don't understand the difference half the time.

It also lacks a key feature, which is something I need for another site. i want to let users post to specific categories only. As it is, there is also a bug that only lets them post to the "The Latest".

Anyway, what I'm slowly getting around to saying is, if I ever learn how to make a mambo template, I'll share what I make with you. But are you sure you want to even use mambo? It's still lacking some key things in my opinion. And every new version seems to mean repairing the template so it will work with the new version.

Oh, one more thing. If you want to see some truly awesome css based templates, visit http://csszengarden.com Everything you see there has ONLY had changes done to the stylesheet. The .html code is NEVER touched, and yet the look and layout is completely different. It's a sort of of a contest site. You could easily find a way cool template and convert it to work with mambo.

Oh yeah, one more thing that bugs me about mambo. Too many tables! It would be a job and a half to get rid of them, they're everywhere! And tables are the only thing more evil that the lord's little brother

[Lucifer]

Sorry ish, I love Mambo. One of the reasons I love Mambo is because it doesn't dumb down the chore of managing content on a website.

That said, I have a few caveats. My personal copy of Mambo, what I use on my website anyway, has been patched to use <div> instead of <table> for content. I've also indicated most modules should be done as lists rather than tables, but it appears that many modules ignore that directive. And the fact that you can only have one category level rather than a whole tree is pretty annoying.

There are a few other missing features that easily prevent Mambo from large-scale deployments, for example CNN or the BBC, but they're coming, eventually. I expect. We'll see.

[root down]

i hate blender
i hate 3d modelling
i hate pretty much everything i don't know how to do
that said, i'll make some breakfast-y work, just not using blender.
or, if someone wants to make me something with a grid and fire beneath it, i'll use it, but i can't make it myself and can't be bothered to learn how
unless you want to pay me

[ishAdmin]

Sorry ish, I love Mambo. One of the reasons I love Mambo is because it doesn't dumb down the chore of managing content on a website.

For me, that's fine, but I've long been searching for something simplier that I can trust in the hands of my customers. I've ended up giving them a combination of tools, each with it's own management system. The bare minimum might be something like greymatter for a bulletin system, and snippetmaster for editing otherwise static pages. They want a gallery, they get a separate gallery system. I really want something that is extremely dumbed down for them to use. One umbrella.

That said, I have a few caveats. My personal copy of Mambo, what I use on my website anyway, has been patched to use <div> instead of <table> for content.

Was that a large chore? I've been considering doing that myself, but I just don't have time to go through everything.

I've also indicated most modules should be done as lists rather than tables, but it appears that many modules ignore that directive. And the fact that you can only have one category level rather than a whole tree is pretty annoying.

Aye matey, get rid of the tables. I HATE TABLES! Don't get me wrong. If you want an actual table of data, well, tables are perfect. But they should not be used for layout. And I'm so freakin annoyed at all my old websites that have tables in them. What the hell was I thinking? Oh yeah, I used to have no other options.

There are a few other missing features that easily prevent Mambo from large-scale deployments, for example CNN or the BBC, but they're coming, eventually. I expect. We'll see.

Well, when it grows up, I'm sure it will be great. Until then, I usually end up custom coding my own kung fu. I've got a customer coming that I am going to have to scratch my head over. I need multiple authors. I might end up using wordpress or something as the backend. Mambo baby, it could have been you!

[Lucifer]

For me, that's fine, but I've long been searching for something simplier that I can trust in the hands of my customers. I've ended up giving them a combination of tools, each with it's own management system. The bare minimum might be something like greymatter for a bulletin system, and snippetmaster for editing otherwise static pages. They want a gallery, they get a separate gallery system. I really want something that is extremely dumbed down for them to use. One umbrella.

Heh, I wanted all in one. Different folks, different strokes.

That said, I have a few caveats. My personal copy of Mambo, what I use on my website anyway, has been patched to use <div> instead of <table> for content.

Was that a large chore? I've been considering doing that myself, but I just don't have time to go through everything.

Not particularly, but if you want I can send you the file to replace to save you the burden. It only fixed the content component, which is like most of the website. But it doesn't fix modules (those are different for each one), and it doesn't fix other content components, like the zoom gallery, or whatever. What's really needed is for components and modules to output xml describing the content, and then Mambo transforms it into the target markup. I don't know if that's even on the radar for htose guys, though. I might do it myself and see if they'll take a patch, though.

Aye matey, get rid of the tables. I HATE TABLES! Don't get me wrong. If you want an actual table of data, well, tables are perfect. But they should not be used for layout. And I'm so freakin annoyed at all my old websites that have tables in them. What the hell was I thinking? Oh yeah, I used to have no other options.

lol. I'll usually use one big table with 2-4 cells to do some basic layout as a shortcut. Then I'll use layers for everything else. But I do take that initial shortcut.....

Well, when it grows up, I'm sure it will be great. Until then, I usually end up custom coding my own kung fu. I've got a customer coming that I am going to have to scratch my head over. I need multiple authors. I might end up using wordpress or something as the backend. Mambo baby, it could have been you!

http://www.opensourcecms.org/

At least, I think that's it. If that doesn't go to the right place, try googling open source cms, and you'll find it. It's a website that has demos of a whole bunch of open source cms systems, including zope if you're interested in python cms. Of course, if you ran python cms, I'd be more than happy to do some hacking for you when you need it. I found Mambo through those guys, and it was how I reached the decision to use Mambo. I didn't check every single one on the site, but had I been doing it for a client I would've checked them all. Since I was only doing it for me, I slacked and took the first one I was happy with.

[Lucifer]

ish: that css zengarden site is awesome. Everybody go look at it!

root: make whatever you want and send it my way. I'll use it one way or another. Or don't, it's up to you. As you pointed out, it's not like I'm paying for it (although, truth be known, if I had money to pay for artwork, I'd gladly do so).

[ishAdmin]

but if you want I can send you the file to replace to save you the burden. It only fixed the content component, which is like most of the website. But it doesn't fix modules (those are different for each one), and it doesn't fix other content components, like the zoom gallery, or whatever. What's really needed is for components and modules to output xml describing the content, and then Mambo transforms it into the target markup. I don't know if that's even on the radar for htose guys, though. I might do it myself and see if they'll take a patch, though.

actually, I would apprecate that (receiving those files). you could pm or email me.

http://www.opensourcecms.org/

At least, I think that's it. If that doesn't go to the right place, try googling open source cms, and you'll find it. It's a website that has demos of a whole bunch of open source cms systems, including zope if you're interested in python cms. Of course, if you ran python cms, I'd be more than happy to do some hacking for you when you need it. I found Mambo through those guys, and it was how I reached the decision to use Mambo. I didn't check every single one on the site, but had I been doing it for a client I would've checked them all. Since I was only doing it for me, I slacked and took the first one I was happy with.

Change that to http://www.opensourcecms.com/ (the .org site is another cms system, the .com site is the comparison site.) I have been there before, but *forgot* about it. I will rebrowse the site to see if I can find something more appropriate for my specific purpose.

If mambo worked with individual users a little better, I could just use it. I need to restrict each user to a specific category for their posts, and I just don't have the time to study the code and figure out how it could be changed.

But actually, the link you provided to opensourcecms.org might do the trick. It's alpha still, but it seems to cover a lot of what I want. It even has project management features, where one person can start something, and others can finish it, then then starter gets an email when it's done. And other stuff too!

[philippeqc]

Because I've started celebrating and I'm just waiting for my gf to be ready so we can go to our party:

You requested some "packs" for the breakfast server. Here is my concept:

-The cycles are torus shaped. The cycle texture adds no color of its own, but instead is used to create shades of the player's color. Theses form spots/zones of different intencity (ie darker/paler) .
-The grid walls and grid floor textures share the same concept, which is the following: different torus of various color float around in a white fog. It is important that the fog goes toward a totally opaque white.
-The ceiling texture has a black background. In the middle and extenting over a considerable portion of the ceiling, you see the underside of a metallic elliptic 'flying saucer'. A long metallic shaft goes from one of the point of the saucer to outside of the scope of the texture.

Extra details could include:
-Giving the impression that the torus is porous by craftfull texture design. The darker spots should represent holes.
-Prefered cycle color should be slight pastel variation of the primary colors.
-If the person who models the 'saucer' make it in a 3D soft, it would be a nice extra if the metal was "shiny" and "reflecting" the scene under it (ie; the floating torus lost in the white fog)

What do you think about it? It feels very "breakfast of hell" for me.

O I forgot to tell you the title:
>Breakfast of hell: A froot loops nightmare< Invisicode! Use your special decoder ring to read.

-ph

[Lucifer]

Ish, this goes in your mambo/components/com_content directory, replacing the file that's there. I've only tested it on 4.5.1, 'cause that's what I'm running. I can help you pinpoint what changed in case it doesn't work wherever you're putting it.

I'm also available for paid mambo work. (not cheap, but not expensive, but when CDN has a favorable exchange rate to USD I can take payment in CDN )

OH yeah, go to my site and view source to see what's different. It's *only* the content area that's different, and it's only for Mambo-managed content. ie other components that use a table-based layout aren't affected by this change.

(I swear Mambo needs its own internal representation that it can transform to whatever people want. I'd gladly take that contract )

[ishAdmin]

thanks for that. I've uploaded it onto my test site and will check it out.

oh yeah, the cvs is testing some sort of intermediate code to give people the power to control this somewhat (as I understand it). I don't really know the details, as I only read it once, and it frankly seemed overly complicated.

They should just make it all div's baby, that's all we'll ever need.