Development just.... dead?

Patchman5000 · Post by **Patchman5000** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:11 pm

There hasn't been a new beta build on the forums in over 2 years.. I dunno, I quit playing a long time ago.. just didn't seem to get any updates at all anymore so it got slightly boring..

So, what's been happening, devs just got other things in life now? Cuz we were getting some pretty interesting breakthroughs with the client a while back.. then it just stopped completely.

Just curious.. there was some high expectations for what you guys had planned.. like all the concept stuff such as walls that broke, not that they would be an easy feature to implement or that it would be fast.. but that it might happen one day.. but development seems to be dead lately.

I check here every few months to see what's up, petty disappointed usually.

Post by **epsy** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:22 pm

Development is not dead, releasing is.

sol · Post by **sol** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:20 pm

I guess there are many guys out there that just look at a release numbers to see if something is going on. How about Gentoo-like releases with year/month - automatically builded every 1/2/whatever month? Maybe that'll help showing everyone that Armagetron isn't dead.

Infa(mous) · Post by **Infa(mous)** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:31 am

ya... if you wanna see the development in progress... https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad
If i ever get around to it, i'll prolly make/release an exe or something every once in a while -> i think that would make you people happy...

taco343 · Post by **taco343** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:58 am

im running mac v.0.2.8_alpha20080908

is a month ago not new?

FourMJR · Post by **FourMJR** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:06 pm

taco343 wrote:im running mac v.0.2.8_alpha20080908

is a month ago not new?

Exactly, although that's an Alpha test. He is asking for a New Release for instance, 3.0 or something.

Infa(mous) · Post by **Infa(mous)** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:50 am

Patchman5000 wrote:There hasn't been a new beta build on the forums in over 2 years..

Is asking for a beta build asking for a brand new release, life?

Luke-Jr · Post by **Luke-Jr** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:20 pm

There are two independent problems here:
1. Release mess: 0.2.8 was supposed to be our stable/compatible branch, and 0.3 our developmental branch; due to various issues with new stuff in 0.3, however, many people have implemented "smaller" improvements in 0.2.8, which will cause 0.2.8.3 to be potentially less stable and, if released today, breaking backward compatibility with older 0.2.8 releases. Thus, 0.3 has not too much new (though probably enough for 0.3.1 if anyone bothers to do it), and 0.2.8 has too much new without the compatibility it needs for a new release.

2. Devs have real life issues: while some folks like epsy, groundpig, and CT have recently made some great strives toward improvements, a lot of us older devs have a lot going on in the real world. Without going into personal details, at least two of us are involved with court proceedings.

Patchman5000 · Post by **Patchman5000** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:39 pm

Luke-Jr wrote:There are two independent problems here:
1. Release mess: 0.2.8 was supposed to be our stable/compatible branch, and 0.3 our developmental branch; due to various issues with new stuff in 0.3, however, many people have implemented "smaller" improvements in 0.2.8, which will cause 0.2.8.3 to be potentially less stable and, if released today, breaking backward compatibility with older 0.2.8 releases. Thus, 0.3 has not too much new (though probably enough for 0.3.1 if anyone bothers to do it), and 0.2.8 has too much new without the compatibility it needs for a new release.

2. Devs have real life issues: while some folks like epsy, groundpig, and CT have recently made some great strives toward improvements, a lot of us older devs have a lot going on in the real world. Without going into personal details, at least two of us are involved with court proceedings.

I understand people get busy with real life, but it's been a very long time since I stopped playing (I just got into MMO's is all, nothing wrong with the game or anything) and I haven't seen any more progress on the 3.x line of development. I could care less about 2.8.x and such because I've had the 3.x build since mid 06 - early 07, and my last 3.x update was on Feb. 1st of 07. Can't go back to 2.8 once you've gotten used to the 3.x UI imo

So with people telling me about 2.8.x versions it's sort of null to me since i'm using 3.x. It just seemed like you guys were putting forth some good progress when I used to play and then it kind of just died down to a low whisper.

Luke-Jr · Post by **Luke-Jr** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:06 pm

Trunk (0.3 development line) has been somewhat alive with new stuff as well, just no new releases. You can always compile your own snapshot. Or perhaps bug someone with a 0.3.1

Post by **epsy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:33 pm

0.3.1 is not ready IMO
0.3.1 needs the working sound engine, so artists can have a packaged version to develop sounds.
I can't promise anything, but I would time that eEvents (on which the sound engine should be based on, and which is my job

) should be finished in feb 2009
Again, I can't promise anything.

Luke-Jr · Post by **Luke-Jr** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:37 pm

0.3.1 would be an experimental/development release, and thus has no "requirements", not even of stability or completeness...

Post by **epsy** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:37 am

It still needs a purpose, which is, I consider, to give artists something to work with.

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