Font on 0.3.0

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Ruiner
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Font on 0.3.0

Post by Ruiner »

Tried downloading both 0.3.0 and the alpha version, both with same result. Everything works fine apart from the font is disjointed:

Screenshot:
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tronhn6.jpg

Spent a lot of time with Epsy and Monkey trying to fix it last night, changed the screen resolution, checked the graphics card etc. with no success

The only thing that temporarily fixed it was when I pressed the start menu button on the keyboard. It would minimize Armagetron and when I re-open it, the font comes up perfect. This however, only works for every 'scene', so everytime I die or change screen it reverts back to the disjointed text

Is there anything I can do? Or am I stuck with 0.2.8 :(
thanks for your help xox
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Post by Lacrymosa »

Could you tell us what OS you use, what graphics card and drivers you have?

I had a similar problem with wrtl's latest 0.3 trunk, but downloading the latest nVidia driver fixed it.
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Post by epsy »

To sum up:
  • Only happens with 0.3
  • Reproduces with any font

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GL_RENDERER GeForce FX 5900XT/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW!
GL_VENDOR NVIDIA Corporation
GL_VERSION 1.5.0 
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23:36 -!- Ruiner [i=ct-javac@spc1-lanc2-0-0-cust980.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
23:36 <Ruiner> hi
23:37 <Ruiner> could someone help me out?
23:38 <ivantis> sure, with what?
23:38 <Ruiner> armagetron 0.3.0
23:38 <ivantis> okay, whats the prob?
23:38 <Ruiner> ive downloaded and installed it no problem, but the font is mucked up
23:39 <ivantis> you mean has weird characters,
23:39 <ivantis> or looks a little bit different?
23:39 <Ruiner> yeah looks weird
23:39 <ivantis> …
23:39 <Ruiner> gimme a sec, ill make a screenshot
23:39 <ivantis> which one?
23:39 <ivantis> okay
23:40 <Ruiner> http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tronhn6.jpg
23:41 <Ruiner> its all crazy
23:41 <Ruiner> ive tried changing the screen resolution, makes no difference
23:42 <ivantis> …
23:42 <ivantis> weird
23:42 <ivantis> uh, better ask someone else
23:42 <ivantis> what OS btw
23:42 <ivantis> ?
23:42 <Ruiner> OS?
23:42 <ivantis> operating system
23:42 <ivantis> windows, mac, linux?
23:42 <Ruiner> windows 2000
23:42 <ivantis> oh
23:43 <ivantis> yeah, ask someone else
23:43 <ivantis> like, ahem, luke-jr!
23:43 <Ruiner> man this sucks
23:43 <Ruiner> ill just stick with 0.2.8
23:43 <ivantis> yes
23:43 <ivantis> you should
23:43 <ivantis> 0.2.8 is better anyway
23:43 <Ruiner> okay thanks for the help
23:43 <Ruiner> see you on the grid
23:43 <ivantis> np
23:43 <Ruiner> bye x
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23:52 <Ruiner> http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tronhn6.jpg
23:52 <Ruiner> you see it?
23:52 <Monkey_arma> do you play in window or full screen mode?
23:53 <Ruiner> full screen
23:53 <Monkey_arma> try pressing the window key to go to window mode, then again to go back to full screen
23:53 <Ruiner> windows key?
23:54 <Monkey_arma> no window key
23:54 <Monkey_arma> its in the menu under:   system setup, misc setting, global ....
23:54 <epsy> operating system?
23:54 <Ruiner> windoes
23:54 <epsy> what do you have for a video card?
23:54 <Ruiner> wtf?!
23:55 <Ruiner> i dunno what happened
23:55 <Ruiner> but it seems fine now
23:55 <Monkey_arma> did you press the key to put it to window mode?
23:55 <Ruiner> oh its gone shit again
23:55 <epsy> what do you have for a video card?
23:55 <Monkey_arma> happens on mine sometimes
23:55 <Monkey_arma> but i use 0.2.8
23:55 <Ruiner> this is weird
23:56 <Ruiner> i load it
23:56 <Monkey_arma> that is an OLD version you have
23:56 <Monkey_arma> check your screenshot
23:56 <Monkey_arma> thats not the most recent alpha
23:56 <epsy> well, uhm
23:56 <Monkey_arma> from the beta.arma... site
23:56 <epsy> compared to 0.3, that's not old at all :P
23:56 <Monkey_arma> but i doubt its that
23:57 <Ruiner> i load it up and its weird, then i press the start menu key on the keyboard
23:57 <Monkey_arma> what gfx card do you have?
23:57 <epsy> well tell us what's your video card first
23:57 <Ruiner> it goes back to the desktop
23:57 <epsy> can you please answer our questions?
23:57 <Ruiner> then i maximize
23:57 <Ruiner> and its fine
23:57 <Monkey_arma> you have the same issue as me
23:57 <Monkey_arma> here is a link to my screenshots
23:58 <Ruiner> and i dont know what graphics card i have haha, sorry
23:58 <epsy> tehre's a way to know
23:58 <Ruiner> not great with computers
23:59 <epsy> try finding the device driver manager
23:59 <Ruiner> do you have to do that everytime then monkey? or is there a way to fix it?
23:59 <epsy> are you on a desktop or on a laptop?
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00:00 <Ruiner> desktop
00:00 <Ruiner> where shall i look?
00:01 <epsy> windows xp or vista?
00:01 <Ruiner> xp
00:01 <Ruiner> do you use 0.3 or 0.2.8 epsy?
00:01 <epsy> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080705202221AABr1Z8
00:02 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18662&sid=cd0cebc1601dfe30d40eca6953ce3aea
00:02 <epsy> some late code from the 0.3 branch
00:02 <Monkey_arma> ruiner read that link of mine
00:02 <epsy> Monkey_arma, this is not the same thing
00:02 <epsy> Ruiner, does it happen with stable?
00:02 <Monkey_arma> ruiner, mine only happens sometimes...not most of the time
00:03 <Ruiner> right okay
00:04 <Ruiner> i got a
00:04 <Ruiner> geforce fx 5900xt
00:05 <Ruiner> oh shit
00:05 <epsy> ctrl + alt + supr
00:06 <Ruiner> but when a new 'scene' loads, like i die and a new round starts, i gotta do it again
00:06 <epsy> tell us how much ram your computer has and how much it is using
00:06 <Ruiner> the computer is fine
00:06 <Ruiner> whats supr?
00:06 <epsy> er, i meant del
00:07 <epsy> Ruiner, does the same happen with 0.2.8.2.1 ?
00:07 <Ruiner> nope
00:07 <epsy> right
00:07 <Ruiner> its happened to my friend as well
00:07 <Ruiner> he lives down the road
00:07 <Ruiner> he tried it on his other computer
00:07 <Ruiner> and it worked fine
00:07 <epsy> is he perhaps using the same kind of computer? :P
00:08 <Ruiner> yeah probably X)
00:08 <Ruiner> but its not a bad computer
00:08 <Ruiner> must be fixed somehow
00:08 <Ruiner> its just annoying
00:08 <Ruiner> do you use 0.2.8 or 0.3?
00:08 <epsy> own build from 0.3 branch
00:09 <epsy> did you try changing the font ?
00:09 <Ruiner> i couldnt figue out how
00:09 <epsy> pick a ttf font, put it in App data/armagetronad/textures/
00:09 <epsy> then set FONT_FILE to point to it
00:10 <Ruiner> where can i find ttf fonts?
00:10 <Ruiner> pardon my stupidity
00:10 <epsy> http://www.dafont.com/
00:10 <epsy> http://www.dafont.com/neuropol-x-free.font
00:10 <epsy> try this one
00:12 <Ruiner> which one should i replace?
00:12 <Ruiner> armagetronad or font
00:12 <epsy> don't replace anything
00:12 <epsy> you know where to find your user.cfg ?
00:13 <Ruiner> yeah
00:13 <epsy> go there
00:13 <epsy> go up one dir
00:13 <epsy> there you have the var dir, and perhaps a "textures" dir
00:13 <epsy> if there is not, create the textures dir
00:14 <epsy> then put the .ttf's in
00:14 <Ruiner> vars the hidden one right?
00:14 <epsy> probably
00:14 <Ruiner> give us a sec
00:14 <epsy> sure
00:15 <Ruiner> (ive moved my amragetron directory to a different hard-drive, so var has moved somewhere)
00:16 <Ruiner> should i move the ttfs from the other textures file in there too?
00:16 <epsy> maybe
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00:18 <Ruiner> okay now what?
00:20 <epsy>                    FONT_FILE neuropol x free.ttf
00:21 <epsy> (i think you should be able to copypaste in arma)
00:21 <Ruiner> im console?
00:22 <Ruiner> okay one sec
00:24 <Ruiner> oh gawd
00:24 <Ruiner> font changed, but still hasnt worked
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00:25 <Ruiner> is there someway to put your custom 0.3 into an exe file?
00:25 <epsy> so it's not just with the default font ok..
00:25 <epsy> Ruiner, well, mine isn't custom at all
00:26 <epsy> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Windows&arch=x86&bitness=_32&format=#download
00:26 <epsy> try wrtl's build
00:27 <epsy> but well, i doubt tbh it will fix it
00:28 <Ruiner> same problem
00:29 <epsy> could you paste the GL_RENDERER, GL_VENDOR and GL_VERSION lines from your user.cfg ?
00:29 <epsy> (please do not paste the GL_EXTENSIONS line)
00:29 <epsy> wait, is that my nick?
00:30 <Ruiner> GL_RENDERER GeForce FX 5900XT/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW!
00:30 <Ruiner> GL_VENDOR NVIDIA Corporation
00:30 <Ruiner> GL_VERSION 1.5.0
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00:31 <Ruiner> what does that mean ^
00:31 <epsy> Ruiner, it's the information about the video drivers
00:31 <Ruiner> anything wrong with them?
00:31 <epsy> no, it's all good
00:31 <Ruiner> damn
00:32 <Ruiner> this is gay
00:32 <epsy> this is FTGL!
00:32 <Ruiner> i guess ill just have to stick with 0.2.8
00:33 <Ruiner> okay ill play around with it a bit more
00:33 <Ruiner> thanks for your help epsy
00:33 <epsy> yw
00:33 <Ruiner> see you later
00:33 <epsy> you may try posting on forums
00:33 <Ruiner> yeah ill give it a go
00:33 <epsy> Ruiner, but my guess is that it's an FTGL bug :/
00:33 <Ruiner> seeya
00:33 <Ruiner> whats that mean>
00:33 <epsy> FTGL is the font renderer used in 0.3
00:33 <Ruiner> oh right
00:34 <Ruiner> ill post it now and see
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