Request: Timesaver: binaries with sty patch applied

New England · Post by **New England** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:38 am

I think it save all of you a lot of time answering the same questions if someone releases binaries (.dmg .exe etc) with groundpig's styball patch applied to it.

What do you think?[/u]

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:50 am

somewhere on here if i remember correctly the pig said he only wanted those who could apply the patch to use the patch.

New England · Post by **New England** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:01 am

that sounds against the spirit of Armagetron. =P

I'm sure pig has a good reason

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:35 am

it may have been something more like not adding it to the latest trunk. BTW has anyone seen the Pig?

Website · Post by **Z-Man** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:08 am

It sure would be a timesaver (for you, whether it is one for us developers/builders needs careful evaluation), but think of the things you learn when you compile from source and apply the patch, all that would be lost.

New England · Post by **New England** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:26 am

true just by failing (and failing again (and again(and again)))) I have learned a lot about compiling and how Armagetron is set up.

Post by **epsy** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:32 pm

man, using a precompiled dedicated server is LAME anyway.

HEXadecimal · Post by **HEXadecimal** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:12 pm

The point is it would be a timesaver for you. but i think the staff would disagree, as far as there time goes.

of course i could be wrong.

philippeqc · Post by **philippeqc** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:54 am

I've received complains recently that my post where a) too long and b) could use teasers to create interest. So to this a) there is a one line resume at the end b) here are the teasers:
"...a driving force that move mountains."
"If you feel backed in corner right about now..."
"...worth the "learning" scout badge many times over"

Now your featured presentation:

New England:
Seeing the number of request for help patching the code to enable the STY mode in the last few weeks, I'd have to agree with you that it would be a save of time for us too ;). How many post on how many threads!

The problem with open source project and all the work associated is that it requires people to dedicate their free time onto tasks. It is extremely difficult to ask someone to do something for you, impossible to force them. The best motivation seems to be having an itch to scratch. Recognizing that something is important is still quite low motivation. But that something _IS_ important for _YOU_, _THAT_ is a driving force that move mountains.

I just saw that you made a map using zones v2, and as it is, I'm basically the only person in the world that has a working client and server able to understand this format, it means you had to read that not-too-user-friendly-and-quite-long document, grasp it all to a level that you could write down your ideas in the proposed format without being able to test it anywhere. I think it is worth the "learning" scout badge many times over.

If you feel backed in corner right about now, with the walls of desire and capacity of learning behind you, I'm not much more that the person made you look around. You moved yourself there quite gracefully with your ambitions and your passion to contribute ;)

I'll let you decide what to do next!

-ph

The one line resume:
New England, i think the best answer is that you attempt to provide a patched server for your OS.

edit: Remove the named reference, as said person was being sarcastic at the moment when the comment was made. The fault is mine for misreading it.