Use player ID as an alternative to names

[dukevin]

It would be really useful if there could be a way to reference players by their ID to perform various commands on. Like "rename_player 3 noob" or "kill 2" or "spawn_zone zombieOwner 2 3 ...". This currently only works for banning and kicking.

Making this work would allow for maps with zombie zones in the xml (cannot spawn zombies without a player target), preforming admin commands on people who have all unicode characters, and many more possibilities (yes, many possibilities ).

Seeing how this has already been done for banning and kicking, it shouldn't be that hard to implement to the other functions?

[dlh]

Commands like rename_player, etc. actually function the way you describe, but sty+ct disabled this behavior. Here's a comment about it:

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Removed by ed so players are not selected by id number, just names, So players with a number for a name do not confuse things

Also, if a player has a name with only special characters you can kick them by using a transcribed version of their name. Example: öî → KICK oi. Remember that for commands that take a player name as an argument, you do not need to supply the full name—only a unique substring is required.

[dukevin]

Commands like rename_player, etc. actually function the way you describe, but sty+ct disabled this behavior. Here's a comment about it:

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Removed by ed so players are not selected by id number, just names, So players with a number for a name do not confuse things

That's quite interesting, thanks for the info. So a non sty+ct server would allow any command with player arguments to be substituted with player ID's?


Is there a command that turns the sty+ct override off?


Also, on a side note, if you /op a person with unicode characters to a useless access level, you can see how the name is transcribed.

[kyle]

yes this is something we did in sty+ct because when our scripts interacted with the server, if a player was named 1 it would do the action on the person with an ID of 1, here is what was done.

[dukevin]

yes this is something we did in sty+ct because when our scripts interacted with the server, if a player was named 1 it would do the action on the person with an ID of 1, here is what was done.

I see...

As a feature request, could there be a way to discern between the two? Perhaps when referencing a person by ID, the parameter could be "rename_player ID:1 noob". If a person were actually named "ID:1", performing a command on them would be referencing them by a substring like "rename_player D:1".

Or perhaps it might be easier to have a command to toggle ID referencing on and off?

[Z-Man]

That's a tough interface design problem. What do you do about players named ID:1?

[dukevin]

That's a tough interface design problem. What do you do about players named ID:1?

If a person were actually named "ID:1", performing a command on them would be referencing them by a substring like "rename_player ID".

[epsy]

# at the beginning could work as an escape sequence and could be extended in the future. A double ## at the beginning of the mention translates to one # in the player name. ; terminates the sequence and & would split members in the matching sequence. No need to escape anything else.

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Player name    Mention by name     Mention by ID
Player 1       player_1            #id=1;
#id=1337;      ##id=1337;          #id=2;
First #1       first_#1 or first_1 #id=3;

(I forgot if # gets to be an evil character or not in the last line)

[Z-Man]

dukevin: and if members of the ID clan are around?

epsy: I'm not too hot about another set of escape rules, but that would work. I'd prefer the shorthand #1, #2 instead of #id=1; #id=2; (of course, # followed by non-digits could still be reserved for extensions) and I don't understand what & would do. Also, how does first_1 match first_#1?

[Tobe]

Wouldn't quotes (ex: suspend "ID:1") work for player names work too?

[dukevin]

dukevin: and if members of the ID clan are around?

Use a different substring. Instead of "ID" use "D:1" for kicking someone named ID:1. I hardily think people will be named such though.

[Z-Man]

Tobe: what about names with quotes, then?
dukevin: no, you don't want to kick THEM. You want to kick the player named ID:1. And, of course, not D:1, who is also around.

[dukevin]

dukevin: no, you don't want to kick THEM. You want to kick the player named ID:1. And, of course, not D:1, who is also around.

no, that's not what I meant.
for kicking:

• Their name | Their ID | What to type
  
  2 | ID:1 | kick 2 or kick ID:1
  ID:1 | ID:2 | kick ID or another substring of their name like D:1 or :1
  ->}ID | ID:1 | kick ID or another substring

[Tank Program]

What about simply a second set of commands for dealing with IDs? An automatic extension of some sort. If kick_player goes by name, kick_player_id automatically resolves the name from id and goes to kick_player.

[dukevin]

What about simply a second set of commands for dealing with IDs? An automatic extension of some sort. If kick_player goes by name, kick_player_id automatically resolves the name from id and goes to kick_player.

do this for every command that takes in a player name as an argument? And how would this work for zombie zones set to go after player ID:1?
If all this is too complicated, could there be an option to turn the ct override off?