Armagetron, a 2-D or 3-D game?

Post by **Lucifer** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:23 pm

Dammit tank, why can't we ignore threads. Heh. Or mark them as read without having to actually read them.

Two classic BBS functions I don't understand why we don't have here, and it may not be Tank's fault.

1. The ability to see all unread posts. (The damn thing marks them read, why can't it just do a simple query for them?)

2. The ability to mark posts read without having to read them.

These are problems that were solved in the goddamn 70s. Or at least the early 80s. When programming was a hell of a lot harder than PHP Hypertext Processing.

iceman · Post by **iceman** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:10 am

click me lucifer

2b|!2b? · Post by **2b|!2b?** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:14 am

Energy can be seen as a dimension but when you do express a system with energy as a dimension (as opposed to as a result), other dimensions (space or time) will fold (i.e: be converted)
Time is *not* a construct of our perception. Sorry. This was a suggestion made in the previous millenium, but time has been proven to exist and it is interwoven with space (does the theory of general relativity ring a bell?)
If time were a construct of our imagination, then so would space.

DrJoeTr0n · Post by **DrJoeTr0n** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:07 pm

Hmm
2D is length and width, while 3d is Length, Width, and Depth. and isn't this called Armagetron: A Tron Clone in 3D?

Post by **Lucifer** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:33 pm

2b|!2b? wrote: If time were a construct of our imagination, then so would space.

It's a 3d game because I say it is, and this entire world is just a construct of my imagination. I don't know what I really am because I'm trapped in this---simulation, and you are all just figments of my imagination.

iceman · Post by **iceman** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:15 pm

*increases lucifers medication

SuPeRTaRD · Post by **SuPeRTaRD** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:50 am

afaik string theory is pretty much accepted as fact nowadays

there are some new 3d lcd monitors that project 2diff images one to each eyeball

blah blah

gene · Post by **gene** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:49 pm

Reality is perception; therefore I believe this to be a 3d game. Game play would be much different if the view was 2D (especially if it was a side scroller, which would be really hard to make work). With enough skill and experience you can make moves based on the idea that your opponent cannot see in all directions at once, and attempt to capture them with that knowledge.

n54 · Post by **n54** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:06 am

SuPeRTaRD wrote:afaik string theory is pretty much accepted as fact nowadays

there are some new 3d lcd monitors that project 2diff images one to each eyeball

blah blah

which goes to prove this discussion is bordering on anal as on a 3d screen every 2d game would be 3d! *mindfuck complete*

i agree with gene

.:Avl:.C10ud · Post by **.:Avl:.C10ud** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:06 am

The graphics may be 3D, and people may call it a 3D game, but I say that the game itself is most definitely 2D.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:29 am

Really, nothing horrible will happen to this thread if you let it lie for more than two years.

Post by **Tank Program** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:09 pm

.:Avl:.C10ud wrote:The graphics may be 3D, and people may call it a 3D game, but I say that the game itself is most definitely 2D.

Hope to fix that some day

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.:Avl:.C10ud · Post by **.:Avl:.C10ud** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:41 pm

Tank Program wrote:Hope to fix that some day .

rotfl. how??

2020 · Post by **2020** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:56 pm

i presume you are talking about 2d strategy
since we are playing on a grid

well
our bikes are points
and the trails left are lines
and so it doesn't quite reach 2d

so
more like 1d

quote:
end of line

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:50 pm

Points and lines may exist in 0D (or rather a single point in that case) and 1D, respectively, but more is always possible. In Armagetron everything happens on a plane which is effectively utilized, so definitely 2D. I'd say the graphics are 3D, but according to you they're probably 2D since OpenGL can only draw 'flat' surfaces (which are in turn constructed from points/line segments!). Also, in the end we're merely seeing a projection into 3D on a 2D surface.