Education! (Split from Drawing Game)

[sinewav]

And for my final post in this thread, directed at those who defend rape culture and all the wretchedness of Internet culture and online gaming...

Ask yourself some questions. If you know something is offensive, or could be offensive, and you can make your meaning clear with offending, why do it? Is it because your vocabulary is too limited? Is it because you are not creative? Look at the great men and women of history. Does your language reflect high ideals? Why stop short except for laziness? You can still tease someone in a playful atmosphere without being hurtful.

I try cultivate the character of my role models, people like Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Tenzin Gyatso, and while I very often fall short, I do my best to stay on track and implore others to help me along. I don't see any of my heroes saying LOLFAG so I choose not to. Maybe you could use some better role models?

Strive to be better.

[Word]

Maybe you could use some better role models?

Any Beatle. Morrissey. Frank Zappa. Harry Pearce

[Lucifer]

I would, but I can't access the original text, so I would have had to guess. You were blaming us again, right? Plus, what I said did not really depend on the changed bit. Edit, plus: it was edited for a reason and maybe was not quotable in its original form.

Your guess based on what was in italics would have been suitable. I only changed "right" to "wrong" and flipped those two words around.

Mod abuse. Gotta love it... (also, I figured the conversation was over and a lock might be impending)

I should screencap when I troll like that and make a webpage called "When moderators become trolls".

[TaZ]

This is where we need impartial authority. This bickering would never have occurred if someone with the ability to do so, removed that kind of immaturity from the master list. Easily done, yet no-one does it.

Lucifer: I understand your point, but there's a limit to what people are prepared to do in public on the internet. In a place like this, I highly doubt that anyone would name a server as such. I consider it more likely that someone will attempt to retaliate against whatever "wrong" they have perceived against them, and act as such. Unfortunately, in this instance, the accused responded with immaturity. "whatever clan is whatever shit etcetera".

Whilst mildly offensive, most (if not all) of us have the ability to ignore it. You, Phytotron, for whatever reason, decided to bring it into the spotlight, thereby granting it more attention and beginning a battle of wits.

Our community would certainly not tolerate an individual expressing his wishes for others to commit fallacy or sodomy, and especially not such acts as taking the innocence from children. However, we still have the risk of going there, as arguments become more personal and retaliations more frequent.

I see it all the time, and call it out all the time, and yet the community ignores me. Why?
Because some of the community is more interested in saving face, or getting one up over the other. This is how wars started, and will continue to start, for centuries to come. There seems to be no presence for peace and turning the other cheek here.

Take a look at the murder in Woolwich, for example. By committing that act, the perpetrators believed that they would incite fear and thus be able to present their cause more openly.

In fact, what they did gave way to violence and racism. Few people in the UK have the maturity to say "Perhaps we let people into the country who had no real need to be here, but now it's done so let's make the best of it". Instead, they want every non-british person out of the UK, and violently demonstrate this fact by fighting against any authority or individual who says otherwise. Take the demonstrations up in Newcastle, where I live, for example: On the face of it, they looked pretty calm and well behaved. However, up in the west end of the town, where there is a large pakistani/bangladeshi settlement, there were 6 murders, over 20 attempted murders, a massive fuckoff street brawl, and nearly 200 arrests.

Violence begets violence. In the same way, immaturity begets immaturity.
Every time someone makes a crappy post that doesn't really add anything to the argument or debate or w/e (I'm getting sick of typing now, can you tell?), it just compounds an already poor view of them.

Bleh. Rant #2 over.

Easily the best post on this whole thread, yet it was mostly ignored. Welcome to our future delinquent. Although we're all guilty of being impartial at times, it's at least important to recognize it.

[Jonathan]

Ask yourself some questions. If you know something is offensive, or could be offensive, and you can make your meaning clear with offending, why do it? Is it because your vocabulary is too limited? Is it because you are not creative?

It's because young (generally), impressionable people copy "what everyone else is doing", few with any scrutiny. It doesn't get any deeper than that.

I should screencap when I troll like that and make a webpage called "When moderators become trolls".

"When a triumvirate becomes a duumvirate."
--Lucifer likes this.

[ConVicT]

I would, but I can't access the original text, so I would have had to guess. You were blaming us again, right? Plus, what I said did not really depend on the changed bit. Edit, plus: it was edited for a reason and maybe was not quotable in its original form.

I only changed "right" to "wrong" and flipped those two words around.

I should screencap when I troll like that and make a webpage called "When moderators become trolls".

Also, you changed my question into a statement, and that is what "Z-man" was quoting, so he quoted you not me!

[ConVicT]

Easily the best post on this whole thread, yet it was mostly ignored. Welcome to our future delinquent.

I hear wedding bells!

[Z-Man]

So we can now add homophobia to your list of stereotypical won't-grow-ups traits? Nice!

And I don't see how your repeated nitpicking at the formal correctness of quotes changes the fact that you are wrong comparing the metaphorical use of "rape" with that of "slaughter".

TaZ: That post was not ignored. Just not answered to.

[Word]

Not just homphobia, he's the kind of guy who apparently thinks that agreeing with someone on the fact that he is a stupid idiot is the same as licking boots.

[ConVicT]

I think you should all watch "Frankie Boyle" live.
I think you'd all enjoy it so much.
(Warning to all over reactive people) keep a defibrillator handy!

[PyrrhicVictory]

Can someone please close this topic? It filled me with pain reading it, I fear what is yet to come.

[Jonathan]

I've seen worse. This thread doesn't impress me at all. Threads that hit 10+ pages in the blink of an eye have desensitized me.

"When a triumvirate becomes a duumvirate."
--Lucifer likes this.

Did I mention they might take Luke-Jr on board instead?

[Z-Man]

Dammit, no support for me here. So let me just namedrop this comedian so everybody thinks I was joking the whole time. The perfect escape!

AMIDOINITRITE?
And I admit I really don't get why you chose him, or the defibrillator reference. Is he supposed to be offensive or shocking or something?

[ConVicT]

Well he doesn't have a joke that doesn't refer to r**e of some kind, as far as iv'e seen. (Just to make things clear, I despise this guy!)
The "defibrillator" part was *If you think I'm bad then make sure you have one handy cuz he'll make you go into cardiac arrest!*.

Wasn't an escape anyway, I'm really feeling like you haven't read everything i said.
I didn't say people should say this stuff in games, NOT ONCE!, I merely *agreed* that it is accepted as in online gaming as a sort of dis, if you're beaten in a way that was impossible to avoid.
You're all acting like I made it up myself and use these terms on a regular basis I don't, and wouldn't.
I frown upon all of this myself, but the argument here isn't whether you, or I, accept it, it is that the vast majority do, but wouldn't in real life, as in face to face.

[Phytotron]

Are we any less real humans than the people you meet face to face?

Are we not men?

On similar grounds, "rimming" is a perfectly fine word to use around here.

Because Europeans who don't natively speak English like to make up their own English words, especially where conjugation is concerned.

At the time I posted this I was trying to think of this one prominent example, but couldn't. Then I happened to run across it last night. The word: Lucker.



Right, so, lightheartedness out of the way, here are a few things to read. If you don't read them all in full (and a significant number of the embedded links), thoroughly digest and contemplate their contents (as opposed to knee-jerk reaction), then I suggest you shouldn't bother posting anything else in this thread, especially defending your disgusting attitudes and behavior or that of others.

Rape Culture 101
Why rape jokes are uniquely bad
An earnest letter to guys about the problem with rape jokes; It’s not about being PC
Misogyny, Sexism, And Why RPS Isn’t Shutting Up