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BTD wrote:
gawdzilla wrote:I am okay with the USA having 2 teams: east coast & west coast.
this isnt a bad idea.


Well. Ive counted the USA players thus far. We have 17 from east coast, 3 from west coast. Not sure about NEL or INS. I know Durka is from west. With those type #s, the east coast west coast idea wouldnt work. However, it would not be smart using only 6-8 players from USA when theres like 25-30 players interested. How is that promoting tron? How is that getting more ppl interested or involved?

Lets not make this another USAvsEU. Lets not make it another popularity contest.
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I have a solution, so please hear me out.

To have a "World Cup" in Arma, it's important that teams are decided by country, and only one country per team. This is the attraction of the tournament.

However, some countries have too many players, and some have too few.

I think excess players should be allowed to play for teams who are short of players. Think of those players as having "dual-citizenship" (which some players in the World Cup have).

If someone creates a team for Andorra, and only has 3 players, why not fill in with the extra US players? There are plenty of tronners who would love to play and will do well representing other countries. If you have Team Germany with 5 Germans and 1 UK player, I don't think that's bad. If you have Team Swiss with 1 Swiss and 5 from the USA, I think that's OK too --- If the team name remains Swiss. That's the important thing.

Now, I don't have a solution to the problem of too many players for one country. I say let the team managers decide. In the case of the USA, it's only Spook who wants to be team manager, so leave the decision to him. If you have more than one team manager, then work it out through PM's or something.

Don't make a big deal out of something fun. I think it's more important to see a bracket with countries on it than worry too much about player citizenship. (Also, what about players in the US who aren't actual citizens, but were born in the EU? What then!? haha!)

If you have too many player per country, there is also the voting method used for the US vs EU Fortress Tournament a few months ago.
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Yeah dual citizenship. Count me in for US (NY) if you guys end up hosting something for the coasts. Thanks!
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what about usa players that have more than 1 nacionality..? idk, like some1 that have parents from costa rica, so that person could play for costa rica and not usa. For example i have 3 nacionalities, argentina spain and italy. I can choose one of them to play for. Is there some usa players that have this choice too?
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yes, this is for fun and i don't see why wouldn't you participate because of a thing like name... >_<
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I really don't see an issue with multiple teams of one country. The country is just a NAME...does it really matter? If there is 4 USA teams in the semis then the rest of the world failed to beat 1 of them...where is the issue? It is like a clan or team like TX or CT or SP having 3 or 4 ladle teams...
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Why don't we just randomize the USA players on multiple teams.
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Luck, it depends also who can make it, and theres a thrill on geographical victory. In an ideal world every country would have enough players for one (or two?) teams, but thats not the case. So we can split USA up hopefully, in a fair way, that everyone agrees on, and everyone can be happy... well you can never make everyone happy, but everyone who wants to compete anyway.
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I'll gladly play on a mixed team w/ Finland/Norway/Denmark (i.e. neighbouring countries) in this International Challenge.

I wouldn't enjoy playing w/ different countries in a World Cup.

I won't argue any further - I've made my personal point. Now you know what to expect from me. ;-)

either way, good luck to all participants.
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Re: International Challenge - Discussion

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Woned...i hope you do know nationality is the nation you are born in or have membership in.
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What are you talking about tremor? I haven't said anything at all in this thread.

And yes... I do know what nationality means.
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Post by Word »

heh, you should all post scans of your passports here to prove that you're authorized to play for your country.

(or, in other words, how exactly are you going to determine the nationalities that aren't indicated by a player's IP?)
sinewav wrote:(Also, what about players in the US who aren't actual citizens, but were born in the EU? What then!? haha!)
lol we have to respect our minorities...the German team mustn't forget the proportion of women......France needs 1 or 2 Roma men etc :P
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@Woned : 1. The status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.
2. A people having common origins or traditions and often constituting a nation.
3. Existence as a politically autonomous entity; national independence.
4. National character.
5. Nationalism.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nationality
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do we really need to complicate so much? if youre from poland, you should speak polish and thats all poland team needs. no need to post birth certificates >_<
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I speak english let me play for britain!
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