LADLE 36

[Goodygumdrops]

nice

last ladle sp complains about aliases being unfair

sp does something which anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can see is unsporting and unfair

then flex tries to defend it

sp proves that they are only interested in a level playing field unless they are the ones who are getting an edge

don't say "there's no rule against it," and act like you thought it'd be ok

flex, you know what you did was wrong

i suggest an emergency vote after this ladle so we can put in place a rule making team rosters lock before brackets are set

[Titanoboa]

i suggest an emergency vote after this ladle so we can put in place a rule making team rosters lock before brackets are set

I agree. that or at least limiting the number of player switches. But we'll get into details later.

[-*inS*-]

sp proves that they are only interested in a level playing field unless they are the ones who are getting an edge

Playing vs IB is quite an edge, I mean thank god we don't have to play that TX team that SP beat last ladle without many of it's players.

Anyone with two brain cells would concentrate on the methods not the results.

[syllabear]

Wow learn to read flex. I said you probably viewed it as an easier bracket. And why else would you have done this?

Flex and Ins: Let's drop the bullshit. Don't pretend we can't see what you did, at least have the balls to admit it.

You saw that the lineups you had previously planned, with Magic , Oblivion, Sasha, Psy, MB53, Freetosk8brd, Cyclo, Distort and delta (sure some of these are later signups, not sure which) on SPD, and yourself on Speeders, with the intention to add the better fort members of your clan to that team - Psyko, Viper, Insanity, FoFo, Roger_That, Judders and Nubilous.

When brackets came out you faced potentially two strong opponants on the lower half (CT and Tx) and just one on the top (IB) [no offence to other teams, but these are in the top 4 teams IMO], and so did a switch.

Logically and tactically this is a great move. In a war it would be great. But this is a game. You gave yourself an advantage that other teams don't have.

And no shit I haven't been able to whine about this before if it's happened, this is my third ladle! And it doesn't take even 3 ladle's to see what you are doing wrong, just an inch of humanity.

BUT if I am wrong, then why the hell would you do this, knowning risky move (unless you really think there would be no backlash)??? Why would you do it? To make things 'more fair'? Who makes you arbitors of fairness? Not that anyone would risk playing at all to make things more difficult for themselves

Oh and notice how I didn't have to delve into insults and insinuations of your character to get my point across. Unlike you.

EDIT: Oh and your use of a double negative is just so delightfully ironic, I had to point it out here:

You don't know nothing

[Word]

And why else would you have done this?

for example, i often signed up two teams and hoped we would have enough. we didn't have enough so i removed a complete team from the challenge board and added all of its players to our first team. that didn't give us any advantage because we played TX in the first round.
When you don't know your team, you can swap players just so you have at least ONE good team. it's Flex business to define his teams' roster. it doesn't really affect the other teams when they're good enough.

[-*inS*-]

Ok sylla, this is why we did it: Revenge. Plain and simple we want to beat the team who beat us last ladle. We aren't running or hiding from any other team, and we will have to face a team in the finals as well surely?

If you would like my thoughts on CT and TX and the chances they beat us please pm me, but ffs put down the pitchfork.

[syllabear]

And why else would you have done this?

for example, i often signed up two teams and hoped we would have enough. we didn't have enough so i removed a complete team from the challenge board and added all of its players to our first team. that didn't give us any advantage because we played TX in the first round.

Word, if you signed up two teams, then the brackets came out, then you saw one match you are against CT and the other Open team with no members. You scrap the team vs CT and play all your members against the OT bracket.

THAT would be wrong.

Basically, editing the team structure after brackets come out


And Insa: why not come out and say that in the first place, instead of bullshitting and lying that you are all noble of heart and trying to make things fair?

And I still do not see why you should be allowed to manipulate what teams face whom after brackets come out.

What makes you more special and powerful than any other team or clan that signed up?

[Word]

THAT would be wrong.

SP1 doesn't gain any advantage if they play IB in the first round, the same applied for us when we played tx.

[-*inS*-]

When did Flex or I say we did it to make things fair? It's an effect not a reason...

[Titanoboa]

You'll have to earn your revenge by getting to the finals.

Plus I'm sure our match will be so much better if we get to play in Z-man's, all warmed up.
Now switch back and save us (the community) a lot of time and energy.

SP1 doesn't gain any advantage if they play IB in the first round

They get to play us in a US server...


We'll fix the rules/guidelines problem (that wasn't a problem until you decided to abuse the system) after this ladle.. And if you don't switch back I hope we get to ban your asses for a couple of ladles. This discussion is ruining ladle day for me and many others.

[gawdzilla]

Technically, no rules were violated. I suggest just keep it this way and add new rules after the ladle, surely we don't still have time for switching around?

EDIT: I vote for ban everyone from the next ladle.

[Cody <3]

I bet If a weak team done this, dlh wouldn't of said anything....


BTW isn't this ladle awesome?

[Hoax]

I think we all can see what's gone on here. If you want revenge on a team from a past ladle maybe you should play them outside of the ladle, hope the brackets put you with them, or ask the community for a switch & not make up some crap about why you did it because it just incites forum confrontation

[sinewav]

Here is something ... to think about: Everytime this crap happens and upsets the game, the end result is another rule or provision. When there are too many rules, the game is no longer fun. Ask yourself why you would want to spoil something you've invested so much time in already?

It's clear that Speeders are using their large size to influence the game by pooling from a large group of players (something CT has never done to my knowledge). Other teams don't have this capability, so we have a discrepancy that needs to be addressed. What good are randomized brackets when an entire team can switch positions? So now, we'll have to adopt or clarify another rule. Great. Good job Flex. Right or wrong, it still seems like poor sportsmanship to me.

[Titanoboa]

I bet If a weak team done this, dlh wouldn't of said anything....

That's just ridiculous.
It's true that Word backs flex up because he gets to play the weaker sp team, but that only shows his weak character. dlh has spent a lot of time organizing ladles and I'm 100% sure he cares more about the ladle system than one single match in one single ladle. Flex and SP doing this and getting away with it means other teams will too in the future, and random brackets will be history.


Stop making preposterous baits that'll do no good.