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Just to make sure that team captains know. If you have taken the time to list your global ID, the Wild West =Ladle Server= will have your id active with admin access the day of the bowl, and in all future ladles. Also, you will now have admin level access forever, unless abused, in the following servers of mine. TheServerPharm: Fortress Freedom! The ServerPharmEU: Fortress Freedom! TheServerPharm: Sumo Freedom! These servers were meant to give the community some extra servers for tournaments, clan/team practices and clan/team wars. For more information check out this post: http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 65&t=19376 and this post http://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtop ... 65&t=19377
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custang wrote:This isn't a ladle? this is a bowl so that doesnt mean it has to be at Z-Man's am I correct?
There is essentially do difference in "Ladle 22" and "Bowl 1" besides their TRONIC name. The thing that decides the name is the time of year and the number of players.

I think this is right...

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if ($players > 99)
   {
      if ($date = seasonal)
      {   echo "Bowl"   }
      else
      {   echo "Ladle"   }
   }
else
   {   echo "Ladle"   }
At least, that's how I understand this page:
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ID Fortress is on the same machine as Wild West Fortress right? If that's the case, don't add it to the list.
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http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Bowl/Guidelines#Guidelines wrote:Regarding imbalanced teams... anything less than a full of team of 8 is your problem... an obliging opponent may reduce their numbers if they wish...
I thought the Bowl was 6 players per team...am I missing something?
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I'm pretty sure that's a typo, or bad copypasta, judging by the fact Concord created the page and has been talking about 6 people for the plus team.

edit: I changed it to 6
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no, id fortress can be listed

i host Wild West =Ladle Server= out of my personal VPS in Atlanta!\
Also I think that you should allow multiple servers to be hosted from the dedicated server that Wild West runs...as long as they are on separate VPS's.

I tested this by having 12 people coming into a fortress server that I hosted from my Wild West VPS while a practice was going on during a Friday night practice in the Wild West =Fortress Server=. When you consider the actual specs of the dedicated server that Ww has and the specs of the network connection, I would think that there should be no problem, as long as it is NOT shared hosting. That is why you have seen problems with the use of Luke-jr's shared hosting servers during past ladles. This model of usage would conform to the general rule of 1 ladle server per ip/vps.
Also, consider this: the VCL Fortress Server, Wild West =Ladle Server=, and TR Fortress Server are all hosted on VPS's that are from the same VPS hosting company, and the VPS's were all purchased about the same time. In fact, the VPS's that host the Ww server and TR server were purchased within minutes of each other. Chances are at least the TR server and Ww server are actually on the same main box. Yet, no problems have been seen. If 2 VPS's are configured on the same dedicated server, and the total true capacity is not being overwhelmed, you get no colliding traffic problems. That is why Durka, Codered, Ratchet, and myself have all chosen to use the same provider. We don't get ping spikes from outside traffic. The only ping spikes that I have experienced were from the arma server in question needing a reboot or kinds that happen during intense gameplay.
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After looking at the board, I realized something. Shouldn't the Ct vs Sp play in a Euro server because we are both euro clans? (correct me sp if I'm wrong) It could be switched with the two us clans (again correct me if I'm wrong) in pru vs. vcl's match.
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DDMJ wrote:
http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Bowl/Guidelines#Guidelines wrote:Regarding imbalanced teams... anything less than a full of team of 8 is your problem... an obliging opponent may reduce their numbers if they wish...
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:lol: :lol: :lol: epsy brought the same thing to me, I told him he was the only one that looked at that page and that I had just copy and pasted from the old ladle guidelines. He yelled at me. I didn't edit it. Durka looked at that page. Made epsy right and me feel dumb. :D
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owned wrote:After looking at the board, I realized something. Shouldn't the Ct vs Sp play in a Euro server because we are both euro clans? (correct me sp if I'm wrong) It could be switched with the two us clans (again correct me if I'm wrong) in pru vs. vcl's match.
I don't think that can happen because once you change others will want to change also (e.g. me), it would just cause problems.
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compguygene wrote:In fact, the VPS's that host the Ww server and TR server were purchased within minutes of each other.
And TR inherited Ww's lag. I used to go there as a means to escape Ww, lag but not anymore. :(
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BS sine
the Ww ladle server is the only Ww server on my vps...
the vps i have has double the memory and more capacity than any VPS that anybody else has...1GB memory burstable to 2GB and neither durka's VPS or my VPS is being utilized anywhere near the capacity that either could handle...

Also, when i have loaded the Ww server and durka's TR server was loaded at the same time...neither of us have seen a change in performance.

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compguygene wrote:BS sine
yeah yeah yeah, w/e. I'm not the only one who's noticed it.
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owned wrote:After looking at the board, I realized something. Shouldn't the Ct vs Sp play in a Euro server because we are both euro clans? (correct me sp if I'm wrong) It could be switched with the two us clans (again correct me if I'm wrong) in pru vs. vcl's match.
ok i correct you. pru is european :)
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Sine...understand something....

There is absolutely no direct relationship networking wise between TR's server in Atlanta....and Ww's servers in atlanta! It is impossible for TR's servers to magically "inherit" Ww's lag! I am aware of the issue that ur talking about.

Servers that are West of the Mississippi are a very different animal internet wise than servers east of the Mississippi. That is why i host the Ww ladle server in Atlanta!
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compguygene wrote:Servers that are West of the Mississippi are a very different animal internet wise than servers east of the Mississippi.
Is that like KXXX and WXXX for radio call signs? ;)
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