Flex wrote: It's a clear advantage and you know it. What annoys me now is you don't even need that advantage, maybe against SP, but not with lower skilled teams that you might have played.
I thought the naming was quite clever.
Actually a "so called" lower skilled team (pru who played great this ladle) did better against binary than you did...soooooo...
I've always thought this way. Refer to my last WST team which mocked all of the aliases. Refer to fogies with wheelchairs which was created to mock (and beat) TuI. Refer to the fact that we called them out on this before the first round even begun.
why can't you shut the f*** up and say congratulations? they DESERVED the win, and it was OBVIOUS who was who, even if you asked them, they would have told you who was who...
really psyko/flex, what an awful attitude...
EDIT: i almost forgot, CONGRATULATIONS binaries ^^ very nice matches against us (but first one)
we all said good match and they were OBVIOUSLY the better team, not even close. I wish everyone would learn its not about the outcome whatsoever. Too many people on their high horses nowadays.
Regardless of the letter in front of The Numbers, I was pretty amused playing against Binary - it actually made every player just another opponent on my screen. Congrats on the win Binary - especially 12, who I know has been starving for it for awhile
I don't see what the problem is with aliases at all. Even if they used them to cover their identities (which they didn't), what's wrong with that? By doing that, you're trying to prevent the enemy from knowing as much as possible, aka making yourself unpredictable. It's the same idea with /team messages or teamspeak. If your plan is to let the enemy know as little as possible, then why not use an alias so that he/she cannot predict your style?
And if you still don't think that's fair, then I think dlh laid out what you should do about it pretty clearly:
dlh wrote:Perhaps you should bring up the issue during quarterly voting. There's no rule that says names have to be taken from the Challenge Board.
Flex wrote:. Every player plays with a certain style and method - when you hide that you're not playing equally. It's a clear advantage and you know it. What annoys me now is you don't even need that advantage, maybe against SP, but not with lower skilled teams that you might have played.
Can't say I know the entire "issue" here since I wasn't around to see/play/take interest in the ladle, but it's all baloney from reading this topic (and since it's from Flex). An advantage is an opportunity afforded to one party and not the other. Even if you can argue that playing under alias gives you an advantage and even if you want to ignore knowing who they were anyway, you could have simply renamed your players as well and played on "equal" grounds if it was seriously bothering you that much. They did not, however, have more opportunities to win this ladle than you did, other than clearly outplaying you with a 2-0 win. I guess.
The "alias" argument comes up every now and then. Here is a good discussion we had after L-20. In that discussion, we planned a vote regarding aliases. Later we adopted the rule "players must play with the names listed on the challenge board." I see that this rule never made it into the guidelines on the wiki, probably because it has always been a minor issue (I guess it's my fault since I was the last person to revise the guidelines?).
i think that's not the entire community's problem. uNk and all others can use auth, msn, their forums or a private irc channel to make sure that they don't let imposters play...
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Personally I don't like aliases in Ladles. I like to know who I am playing against and if I pwn or get pwned by some player I know I can congratulate him after the Ladle. I'm still not sure who was and who was not playing for binary, so don't expect "gz" from me guys