Ladle Imposter

[dreadlord]

I agree that everyone who wants to play in ladle has to register, because every player who plays in a ladle must have a forum account ... that would be the most easy way to solve the impostering problem, right?

[apparition]

Does anyone really think current authentication system is foolproof? Anyone can use a friend's real Arma username and password to authenticate or create an alternate login name somewhere to authenticate with. IP checking can be fooled by using a different IP. I feel like if someone really wants to play in the Ladle, they can find a way.

I guess one alternate way to handle this is for some sort of community/forum banning since admins may have more control here.

That being said, I think this topic deserves its own thread/discussion/poll.

[Word]

well, the easiest way would be to ban imposters

[dreadlord]

/me bans Lizmatic ... seriously, I think logging in would be a first step, me for example has no friends who have forum accounts so I can not fake somebody ...

[sinewav]

Coincidentally, Ladle 36 is a voting Ladle (we missed L-33 and voted for L-34). I'll start a discussion thread and we can talk about solutions to the problem.

While we can't stop troublemakers from sharing passwords, setting ACCESS_LEVEL_PLAY 15 at least makes it difficult to impostor players in plain view of their friends.

[epsy]

While we can't stop troublemakers from sharing passwords, setting ACCESS_LEVEL_PLAY 15 at least makes it difficult to impostor players in plain view of their friends.

Well if there's an agreement, subbing is allowed ... as long as the sub hasn't played already.

[noob_saibot]

Blame team Unk for being oblivious. They were unknown to the fact that they had someone playing on their team who wasn't on their team. They were uNk to the fact that their player was a no show. They were uNk to the fact that this person was probably the best player on their team. They were uNk to the fact that they should have been communicating with each other prior to the ladle, in the moments leading up to it, to make sure they were organized. And they were uNk to the fact that they were oblivious. Disciplinary action??? LOL!

[Word]

It's not about uNk, but about Liz
if this happens again, we can discuss to punish the affected teams..

[INW]

I don't think auth. is needed. Some open teams or quickly put together teams let alone 'noob' teams may not understand this. In my opinion, knowing who is playing on your team is the team leaders' responsibility. Trying to prevent this should not be a global issue. As far as punishments go for things like this and other events...yes.

[owned]

Blame team Unk for being oblivious. They were unknown to the fact that they had someone playing on their team who wasn't on their team. They were uNk to the fact that their player was a no show. They were uNk to the fact that this person was probably the best player on their team. They were uNk to the fact that they should have been communicating with each other prior to the ladle, in the moments leading up to it, to make sure they were organized. And they were uNk to the fact that they were oblivious. Disciplinary action??? LOL!

You're being ridiculous saibot. You're blaming unk for not doing something (telling players to login) that is not only not required, but is also not common practice among today's ladle teams. In addition, there was very little that told unk that DrHouse was actually an imposter.

While we can partly blame unk for not being careful enough, it seems rather obvious that the majority of the blame should land on the rule breaker herself.

[Mkay1]

I agree that everyone who wants to play in ladle has to register, because every player who plays in a ladle must have a forum account ... that would be the most easy way to solve the impostering problem, right?

Just hide global ID when you login, you can still play, but nobody knows it is an imposter...unless there is a server admin.

btw why doesn't the forums recognize the word "imposter" as a word?

[owned]

Probably because of the ellipses you put right after "imposter". Putting the word by itself works fine.

[apparition]

And probably because it's usually spelled impostor with an 'o' lol

[noob_saibot]

You're being ridiculous saibot. You're blaming unk for not doing something (telling players to login) that is not only not required, but is also not common practice among today's ladle teams. In addition, there was very little that told unk that DrHouse was actually an imposter.

While we can partly blame unk for not being careful enough, it seems rather obvious that the majority of the blame should land on the rule breaker herself.

But it's simple communication. Team speak or messenger... and its a video game. There will always be impostors and such. If a team isn't organized, they shouldn't be allowed to play perhaps. Maybe this is something one of the voting-thread-people could add to the voting thread. Since that is what the voting-thread-people do, is come up with things to vote about. And so what?, we are going to start banning people from playing a ladle or two? Big poop. That does nothing in the long run. What helps in the long run is making sure teams know who's playing for them (pretty obvious) and making all participants login.

[sinewav]

Let's keep one thing in mind here. It's not just about playing under a different name.

We have a rule that says you can't play for more than one team during Ladle. This is a totally reasonable policy, and there really should be some sort of punishment for people who choose to ignore it. I think missing the following Ladle is fair. To me, Liz playing for two teams is a bigger issue than using an alias to deceive.