Ladle 78 | 2nd Feb | Brackets Up!

[Lowkey]

Sorry to be the noob here but what were all the changes? Just seeds?

[breeze]

At risk of sounding like a dunce, could someone please explain the seeding to me. I was under the impression that after ladle 77 we would have one seed. If thirteen teams signed up, wouldn't it be 6 matches (12 teams) and 1 bye (1 team)? I haven't been following the changes very closely, but if someone could be kind enough to break it down for me, I'd appreciate it.

[sinewav]

This is a good question breeze. There are two separate things happening with the brackets. The first is randomization and the second is seeding.

Randomization: We always use a bracket which can handle all the teams. Imagine we had 9 teams signed up. We couldn't use the 8-team bracket because that 9th team would need to "play-in" for one of the spots. But which team to play? We have to pick one, so we use a larger bracket and allow randomization to pick teams for participation in the play-in round. All the other teams get byes and advance normally.

Seeding: Partial seeding was created with the intention of keeping good teams apart in order to have stronger, more exciting competition later in the event. It was supposed to stop lopsided brackets when all the good teams eliminated each other before the semi-finals. This also allowed for Fortress to become more of a spectator event. (If the best teams were eliminated before the semis many people would miss the excellent displays of skill because they would be playing their own matches!) The drawback to seeding was that over time the good teams got better and the bad teams never got to advance because they rarely played opponents at their skill level, thus never gaining crucial tournament experience.

Today we have eliminated all but one seed. The seed is guaranteed a bye in the first round when available. This serves two functions. First, the winners will not be eliminating noobs in the first round. Noobs then have a better chance of playing other noobs, thus gaining valuable tournament experience. Second, the seeded team will also not face their opponents from the previous finals, which would make for a very exciting first round that no one would see! This is a best of both worlds compromise. Of course, if the bracket is full and no byes are available then all bets are off.

[Concord]

and the simpler point is that if we followed breeze's proposed scheme of 6 opening round matches, then there would be only 7 teams in the quarterfinals, meaning one team would have a bye into semis.

[Lowkey]

oops.......................................

[breeze]

Okay, I see what you mean. Thanks for replying, Sinewav, and then Concord's post clarified it for me. At first glance it just seemed strange that Speed of Light wouldn't play Crazy Tronners Beta, but this would indeed give a team a free ride to the semi-finals. I guess I wasn't thinking far enough through the bracket. Thanks again.

[theo]

The config file linked from the leads to a 404. But the auth file works.

I used ladle77 config. If I should have done otherwise, please tell me as soon as possible. I'll try to connect today between 2 conferences.

[*16]

There is a file here: http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ladle/ladle78_.cfg

But I thought kyle used the _ behind it, if it wasn't ready.

[kite]

Best of luck to all of those competing today. I look forward to reviewing the recordings once Z-Man gets around to uploading them.

[Slov]

I just wanna let Kriki's team know he can't make it today, most of Slovenia is out of electricity including the part where he lives, he's very sorry.

[kyle]

Server admins: ... It seems there will also be a new ladle config file, so be sure to update both of your RINCLUDEs.

The new config was just released so make sure you are up to date with

Code: Select all

RINCLUDE ladle/ladle78.cfg(http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ladle/ladle78.cfg)
RINCLUDE ladle/ladle78_authorities.cfg(http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ladle/ladle78_authorities.cfg)
SERVER_NAME 0x7fff7fLadle 78 0xff7f7f(0x7f7fffPlayer 1's Server0xff7f7f)

Sorry for the delay.

[Luiso]

There is a problem in your server, lowkey, when you try to login it says you don't have access level enough to chat

[Shock]

Just thought I'd say thanks for hosting. GM, RD team! Congrats to winners

[Lowkey]

aw sorry you really should have either pmed me or found me on the grid i hope it all worked out when i cruised by i saw some ops so i thought everything was ok.

ggs unk was soo fun!

unk+1 didnt lag once

[Nagi]

was fun, thx for the matches uNk!

+1 uNk, no slides, no lag
gz to winners