Forfeit in the FPL

[Raiden]

Hi its me Mustang. Lizmatic i have to say it again : i hope your baby will die!! Ya Arma-world read that! You are like dev/null/hack stupid bitch

[Word]

If you must say it, keep it in a personal message
It doesn't help your team.

[Raiden]

lol i think there will be no rematch. We are out of fpl. Its just a game, who cares. We got the ladle.

[Meh=-~]

/me bows down to zion

I am not in the FPL but i COMPLETELY agree with u. You shouldn't have to put up with these attitudes although i haven't seen Lizmatic play i have seen Player 9 alot and for someone to let that guy on their team is beyond meh. This is a game and people's bullshit attitudes shouldn't be tolerated. I know my opinion probably doesn't matter but to punish a team for not wanting to put up with douchebags is idiotic.

[zion]

Hours later...I've read all previous posts and want to comment on some of them.
@all:
Maybe you've read my first post to this. I was about to use my silence function in police menu, when I got kicked. Maybe you know one of my instant chats which says: zion loves his silence function! It is awesome. You should try it, too.
@sine:
Thanks for your statement. Like I said, it is up to all of us to avoid such behavings. I respect Concords decision to step back from teamleader position. It's our choice who we play with and we should take clear position in this and give a clear sign to those who had fun with things like this.
@Word:
Maybe we can agree on a new rule which forbids spectators and opponent players to start useless 'conversations' with the opponent or in public chat in general?
@1200:

I think DS was responsible in sabotaging the match

To me the sabotage started when Lizmatic opened her mouth in public and Player9 realized there is someone more stupid than himself. It always gives you a good feeling when you know there is someone in a more worse situation than yourself.
Where did we sabotaged the match? The moment I left the server it went even more bad. I can't comment on the rest, but honestly: Where do you think a sabotage starts? You are ok with the behaving of your teammates until the moment I got kicked?

As long as we have statements like

me and lizmatic started to make fun of them

or

i will make fun of them even more

I won't take part in a match challenging a team supporting those subjects. If members aren't able to show their teammates how to behave others have to make obvious they don't agree with that behaving. Which makes me lead to Raiden... Wtf? This is the same stupidity level I want to get rid off. ^^ Neither helpful for any party, nor will it lead to a better way of conversation between you and lizmatic. The best way to handle this is to ignore such 'problem-kids' and I don't want you to add more fuel to the fire. Your brain is not just for remembering best attacking moves or ghetto insults.

I hope this text has more structure, word. Last one was even way too long for me.


zion...

...over and out.

[Sasha]

I have respect for zion and Concord, have no respect for teen and have lost Lizmatic's respect.

[1200]

To me the sabotage started when Lizmatic opened her mouth in public and Player9 realized there is someone more stupid than himself.

Lizmatic & Teen talking trash does not equate to the match being sobotaged.
At that point the match could have continued with the correct score.
Instead of ignoring those comments or silencing my teammates the DS admin kicked Lizmatic and Teen and reset the scores.
At that point we are two players down and the score was messed up, that is when the match got sabotaged.
And again we had no admin powers, so it wasn't possible for us to kick or reset the score by any means. If you have any other evidence please bring forth.

I'm not saying that i agree with how my team mates behaved or anything but as i and others have said before trash talk happens in any kind of competition. If you let someone else's comments control your temper then its your own fault for not having the control of your own emotions. Even if you have a control of your own emotions you may still think its unpleasant to play against these kind of players, then all you have to do is silence everyone before you start the match.

I don't think DS needs to withdraw from the competition, just take this event as a learning experience and move on....i'm sure there is going to be more trash talking in the future by somebody even in the Ladle...are you guys going to withdraw from the Ladle as well then?

[MrsKsr]

j.w.

did you ever consider, since both sides are denying it, that somebody else who wasn't playing reset the scores? just curious =/

Mustang: that's taking it too far. really.

[noob_saibot]

Raiden or mustang or whatever the **** your name is...you are a complete jackoff. Its one thing to talk shit in a game, but what you said crosses MY line. There is a fine line between simple trash talk and being a complete ******* prick and you def are a complete ******* prick and should consider yourself lucky that i am only able to read those words on a screen

[Meh=-~]

Raiden or mustang or whatever the **** your name is...you are a complete jackoff. Its one thing to talk shit in a game, but what you said crosses MY line. There is a fine line between simple trash talk and being a complete ******* prick and you def are a complete ******* prick and should consider yourself lucky that i am only able to read those words on a screen

Maybe he did take it too far but i have heard members of Plus say a lot worse

[zion]

Instead of ignoring those comments or silencing my teammates the DS admin kicked Lizmatic and Teen and reset the scores.

Are we both talking about the same match, 1200? ^^
To me it seems you are mixing up some things...the first one who got kicked was me, neither teen nor lizmatic. Both were definitely still ingame when I left.
So when did the sabotage started?
And I only can repeat that I was about to use my silence function when the shit blew up. PLUS having Conc as a teamcaptain always seemed to be a nice team to me. Finding a date and time for the match was no problem everything was fine, how should I know something like that would happen?
G5 told me that he made a fault and because of that Lizmatic had whole admin powers. With that she was also able to make more of you to admins. Or maybe she only wanted to joke around and suddenly *swoops* zion was gone. I don't know. All suggestions from my side. But it still is suspicious that I ask teen if I really need to silence him and got kicked 20 seconds later. ^^
I will have a talk with G5 tomorow to clear some questions I have left in my mind and then hopefully have some more answers.


zion...

...

[1200]

I thought Lizmatic & Teen got kicked first....i guess we don't have the log to verify any of this.
Lizmatic sayz she was only a moderator and not admin.
I guess you will talk to G5 and verify that part.

Even if you were kicked first maybe your admin kicked you by mistake trying to kick Lizmatic & Teen? Who knows....
And like dubz said is there a chance that there was a 3rd party person somewhere with admin powers that was just kicking people to cause chaos???

Instead of ignoring those comments or silencing my teammates the DS admin kicked Lizmatic and Teen and reset the scores.

I'm not sure if you were an admin or not but this is directed at the admin who was doing the kicking.

[sinewav]

You know what I would like to see? Something I haven't read yet:

How about tEEn and Lizmatic apologize for taunting and do their best to keep cool in future matches against DS if they agree to a rematch (and stay in the FPL, hopefully). Maybe this is unrealistic. (Something like that is easier for me because I've spent a lot of time shooting off my mouth, then making amends later.)

Concord stepped down from the FPL because people expect him to manage the team's behavior. This isn't how Plus+ works. Maybe this is a surprise to everyone. As the founder, Concord is the closest thing we have to a leader, but he is not our daddy. We are not the bosses of each other. We simply come together because we enjoy playing with each other. Just because tEEn and Liz are not liked by some (or most), it doesn't mean they are universally bad. I would love for people to understand this, and I would love to see Concord come back to the team.

[akira]

Of course it doesn't mean that said people are universally bad. There is just a simple problem with your conception:

In almost any unclear team/tournament situation decisions have to be made quickly and for the whole team. Explain to me how your team can accomplish this without a leader/singular voice.

[1200]

Concord stepped down from the FPL because people expect him to manage the team's behavior. This isn't how Plus+ works. Maybe this is a surprise to everyone. As the founder, Concord is the closest thing we have to a leader, but he is not our daddy. We are not the bosses of each other. We simply come together because we enjoy playing with each other.

++ I don't think Concord is responsible at all for the actions of his teammates.

In almost any unclear team/tournament situation decisions have to be made quickly and for the whole team. Explain to me how your team can accomplish this without a leader/singular voice.

If needs be Concord would be the one that would make that decision in an urgent situation...but if there is time we'd usually have a vote within the team.