LADLE new rule about aliases

[freako]

Hardly. That works in your favor, trust me. If preSs did play you guys would have been lucky to score more the 30 points a match. preSs had to leave town suddenly and we subbed someone in at the last minute. If you want, we can set up a rematch when he gets back. Want to try your luck?

Well, I don't mind that
As our match ended in playing 6 vs 4 ( because 2 players lost connection and the other got silenced because he thought he was playing the wrong team and he left because of that... )

[epsy]

the other got silenced because he thought he was playing the wrong team

Let me guess he got vocal about it.

and he left because of that...

His fault?

[Z-Man]

Boy, I sure was glad my server was in the OTHER half of the bracket. And that was before all this. But I have to say that neither the nature of the two teams nor the relation of the names to the tags would have been obvious to me. Team tags have been worn at the front and back of the name in the past without there being a meaning to it.
(Of course, had I been affected by this issue, I would have just asked.)

[Word]

Later I was told that the guys who were getting on my nerves were Minesweeper and presSure.

lol I wrote Minesweeper. Minefield*

How are "plusplus" and "plusplus" different enough?

If one team is wearing the "+" tag infront (+Concord, +2020 ...) and the other on their rear (1200+, Radian+ ...) thats different enuff for people to recognize.

...because everyone sees the same symbol and has learned the Challenge Board by heart LOL!

Later I was told that the guys who were getting on my nerves were Minesweeper and presSure.

PreSsure did not compete in yesterday's Ladle just for your info.

Then it was teen or someone whose behaviour resembles pressure's. The guys I mean were named GT Britain and Barrier.

...trash talk is part of the game in most sports.

Do you understand what the phrase "being a sportsman" means?

If the community really feels that it needs to be stopped then there needs to be rules and an admin thats not affiliated with either team to be present in each match to make decision like suspending & kicking players.

I suggested that in my second post here.

[sinewav]

lol I wrote Minesweeper. Minefield*

haha! That is funny. Although, it would be more appropriate, being the name of a program and all.

[freako]

the other got silenced because he thought he was playing the wrong team

Let me guess he got vocal about it.

and he left because of that...

His fault?

Well I wasn't there atm, as my connection got lost right after
But I even if he got vocal about it, I could see the point why he did that... (I heard he was acting a bit childish)
Because when we were wondering that the Tags were *unclear*, and there was a real good chance that our oppents team could be wrong
We got not even 1 comment from them that they were the right team, or that the tags of the 2 plus teams were the same...
They could atleast tell us they were the right team, instead of ignoring us for several rounds..... and also accusing us from being on the wrong server...

[Word]

lol I wrote Minesweeper. Minefield*

haha! That is funny. Although, it would be more appropriate, being the name of a program and all.

I once renamed to Minesweeper when he was there, so I am not completely innocent if he was angry ( i also announced it like "/me renames to something very creative and outstanding which will surprise everybody", so I don't really know why 1200 claims that we should have a thick skin. But Minefield just overreacts. I think I didn't really provoke him with the nick, it was just a warning to tell him: "I will hunt you now if you can't stop to be so annoying")


lol i wrote a long text because of this joke

[Concord]

Let's move forward, eh?

I'm fine with passing a rule on aliases, though for me personally, the disapproval from the community is enough.

[Alien]

hello,

I don't understand this discussion here. A solution is very simple. Everyone who want participate in the ladle tournament has to create an account here. "Then" when this tournament starts we have to login. So everyone has the possibility to see who player XY is. Because XY had to authenticate. If player XY doesn't login XY will not get the permission to join a team. Easy or not?

Otherwise we can conclude a rule which says that nobody has to play with an alias name (or whatever). But there is one big problem. If one or more players (for example: 3 players - A, B, C) of a team will not be available on this ladle so you can be sure that the other mates will search reserves. And now is this rule "No alias names allowed" or "Only registered players are allowed to participate this tournament". What do you think will this guys do? The reserves will rename to A, B and C. Everyone thinks all is OK. But there are players who are cheating!
Or else.. who will read this rules? MMhh.. Persons who construct this rule? (+2 to 3 more?)

Few years ago I tried to do a tournament with rules, too. At first all were saying "great", "fantastic a tournament". One of many problems was the time. It should be a tournament about more than one week. The destination was to find the best armagetron clan. Every tournament has losers and winners. There were clans who lost every match. The result was frustrating. Logical? They didn't continue the tournament. But that is not the point why I tell it to you. One of this tournament rules was saying that every clan has to use an own server. Confidence? Not really! There were a lot of clans who didn't use an own or borrowed one but they were useing a server from an other clan who was participating by this tournament. That was not the purpose. All what I want to have was a fair tournament! That the most players ignored the rules was not the purpose!!!

The rules should be short and just a guide for every player.

I think the ladle is working great. We don't have to change the rules! All what we need is an authentication!!!

So.. that it is..

greetz
Alien

[DDMJ]

The guys I mean were named GT Britain and Barrier.

GT Britain was Radian and Barrier was Minefield.

[þsy]

I cant be bothered to quote everyone's mistakes, let me just clear this up:

pluS+ did NOT have their tag after their name. They wore the same tag as Plus+ for example + Obliteration, rather than Obliteration +

Second of all, if presSure did not play, then you should have made it clear at the start that you had to find a replacement, and who that replacement was..

However, I'm not gonna start moaning about having an unfair ladle or whatnot, who cares - we'll be ready for such tactics next time. Lets just learn from this and not repeat in ladle 21..

I do find it funny though, that under aliases the pluS + team were incredibly rude and insulting (relentlessly calling my team noobs etc, despite us giving them a good run for their money with just 4 players ) yet on here, they're all very polite and understanding. I'm not saying that members of my team weren't at fault, they're simply not on here discussing this matter - unable to fend for themselves. It's like you don't want your 'real names' to be associated with your behaviour, yet under aliases you can be as rude as you like as no one knows who you are!

We need to keep Ladles and other such competitions purely about the gameplay. If you have an urge to let someone know just how shit they are, how about you dick all over them on the grid, rather than vocalize it when your dead.

[1200]

Do you understand what the phrase "being a sportsman" means?

Sure enuff. I think the question at hand is "is trash talking unsportsman like?" It happens in sports and i've never seen any player complain about being trash talked...

1200 wrote:
If the community really feels that it needs to be stopped then there needs to be rules and an admin thats not affiliated with either team to be present in each match to make decision like suspending & kicking players.

I suggested that in my second post here.

Yes that means we are in agreement! I just extended some of your ideas.

pluS+ did NOT have their tag after their name. They wore the same tag as Plus+ for example + Obliteration, rather than Obliteration +

Yea i did say our tag scheme was not implemented for the Ladle, we'll have it sorted for the next one.

Second of all, if presSure did not play, then you should have made it clear at the start that you had to find a replacement, and who that replacement was..

I don't think there is a rule that says you have to do that. But if i'm wrong please direct it to my attention.

I do find it funny though, that under aliases the pluS + team were incredibly rude and insulting (relentlessly calling my team noobs etc, despite us giving them a good run for their money with just 4 players ) yet on here, they're all very polite and understanding.

I find it funny that you assume that a team that has a couple of rude players don't have other players that are not as rude and can understand.

[Concord]

Let's move forward, eh?

I'm fine with passing a rule on aliases, though for me personally, the disapproval from the community is enough.

[1200]

Agrees 1200%++

[sinewav]

Yes, let us apologize one last time then move on.

We did not have our tags in order before the Ladle. After +Plus entered the match between pluS+ and Arrow, we saw the confusion. At that time +Plus switched tags to the end of our names. This confusion was 100% our fault.

I'm sorry if any Plus members were exceptionally rude. For the most part, we keep it nice or within the borders of "trash talking" (which is part of any game like this). However, we do have one loose-cannon on our team who can be quite abusive and can't contain himself well. We are doing the best we can with him.

We are sorry about the sudden player change, but some players were added just moments before the Ladle started, so editing the wiki slipped our minds, not that it would have mattered much since we used aliases.

The members of Plus team have great respect for Arrow clan and the rest of the community. We have pride as a group of individual fort players, but we also welcome players from other clans as well. If you ever find yourself without a team for a Ladle, consider asking to play with us - we may have an opening.