Ladle 17 - Seeded teams or no seeded teams?

owned · Post by **owned** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:39 am

So no seeding it is. How are we gonna do it randomly?

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:30 am

Durka said Wednesday before ladle on IRC.

so just make a script and fetch it with a bot

this code is what i came up with

you may use tronner right now for it by saying
.randomteam KoD,CT,New Monkey,-¦×¦-,Twisted Rats,~WrD~,Noobs of Terror,Shadow,~|DS|~,~*SP*~

script is located at http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.p ... ..,<team10>
or http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.p ... |DS|~,~*SP*~

1200 · Post by **1200** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:37 am

Monkey Wrote:

Some people, including sinewav and 1200, just don't seem to be understanding the point of seeding at all.

Absolute nonsense.

hoop · Post by **hoop** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:58 am

freako wrote: Here is my suggestion for the future......

http://www.mymidwestsports.com/brackets ... p?teams=10

-It may be complicated,
-It will take more time
-It needs more servers....

cool system
yea, it's complicated but not impossible

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:15 am

hoop wrote:
freako wrote: Here is my suggestion for the future......

http://www.mymidwestsports.com/brackets ... p?teams=10

-It may be complicated,
-It will take more time
-It needs more servers....
cool system
yea, it's complicated but not impossible

The bad thing with that system is that 4 teams will have to play an extra game just like how single elimination would work. But anyways, I'm all for the randomization.

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:43 am

kyle wrote:Durka said Wednesday before ladle on IRC.

so just make a script and fetch it with a bot
this code is what i came up with

you may use tronner right now for it by saying
.randomteam KoD,CT,New Monkey,-¦×¦-,Twisted Rats,~WrD~,Noobs of Terror,Shadow,~|DS|~,~*SP*~

script is located at http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.p ... ..,<team10>
or http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.p ... |DS|~,~*SP*~

Here's the server randomization script:

script is located at http://durkas.info/ladle17/random.php?s ... .,<server4>
or http://durkas.info/ladle17/random.php?s ... _1,CT_2,WW

you may use tronner right now for it by saying
.randomserver Z-Mans,CT_1,CT_2,WW

I edited the Challenge Board to reflect the randomization of the servers.

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:30 pm

can we make the final server not random?

Have it be based on how many americans there are playing. If >8 American's playing do WW Fort, if ≤8 American's are playing do Z-Man's

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:23 pm

shouldn't server 2 get more than 1 position, maybe in the Semi Finals round.

anyways my code has been updated, lots of modifications. I did not like having a set number of times it randomized the teams so i made it from 6 to 16 times. I think third place and final server shall be randomly selected so i also added that into my code.

try it:
.randserver2 Z-Mans,CT 1,CT 2,WW

or
http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random.p ... _1,CT_2,WW

code is here

K-Yo · Post by **K-Yo** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:35 pm

About the final server I agree.

what about having it random (why not?)
and if team leaders of each finalist agree for another server, they switch to the other (I think of course 2 mainly european teams playing in WW... it's not fort anymore...)

sinewav · Post by **sinewav** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:03 pm

You may find this surprising since I'm American, but I have no preference to playing on a US or Euro server. The other day I was playing in WW Fort and lagged like I was in Z-Man's server. Probably because my ISP totally sucks. I feel like making a poll to see if other Americans care. Durka? You thoughts?

Monkey · Post by **Monkey** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:50 pm

Similarly, although in reverse to, sine, I am a European that does not mind playing in either European or American servers.

DDMJ · Post by **DDMJ** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:39 pm

sinewav wrote:I feel like making a poll to see if other Americans care. Durka? You thoughts?

The Wild West servers are on the East Coast of America (in Florida). I live on the far West Coast (Los Angeles, CA). Most Americans on the East Coast get around 120-140 ping in Euro servers and most Euros get 120-140 ping in WW. However, for some of us, it's not the same. For example, I get ~200 ping on Euro servers along with my fellow West Coast Americans (Legit, garisimo, etc) and P4 gets ~200 ping on WW along with other Europeans that live near him like Sebol. There's also the issue that the entire internet network in Spain is shit and they get 100 ping in Euro servers, and 200 in WW. So in the end, it all kinda evens out, which is why randomizing is the way to go. I mean heck, some Europeans have a lower ping than me in WW since it's on the East Coast.

kyle · Post by **kyle** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:45 pm

i get ~115 on wild west
~85 on Luke-Jr's
~180 on Euro servers

so really for me wild west and Euro serves are not much of a difference

Concord · Post by **Concord** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:32 pm

I get 100-130 on Cafe
60 on WW
35 on PinkTomatoes

owned · Post by **owned** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:28 am

40 for WW
Like 100 for euros.

My ave. ping has dropped in euro servers by like 50 since I got my new computer.

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