no sealing?

Post by **Lucifer** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:28 am

Sorry for the double post, but it occurs to me that it's very easy to setup a server that enforces this open play.

CYCLE_RUBBER -1

Then tweak CYCLE_WALL_NEAR and CYCLE_ACCEL until you're happy.

No code changes needed.

(try sumo with it, it's awesome)

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:15 am

That just disables space compression perpendicular to a nearby wall. Visible sealing is still possible by outer corner grinders.

root down · Post by **root down** » Thu May 24, 2007 5:06 am

i still don't think disabling "sealing" is the best move to make, rather i would say educating those who disagree with sealing in the machanics of the game is the way to go.

Post by **Lucifer** » Thu May 24, 2007 5:10 am

You will be surprised and amazed at how hard people will try to resist being educated. We've been trying for months now, maybe a year or more, to educate people on rubber, and it's just not working.

In any case, I certainly agree that education is the best way to go, I think I'll settle with people just relaxing more about how other people play. Because if people play "open" with me, then when (not if) I get out of their tunnel, I'm going to slap them in the smallest, most tightly sealed box I can.

Fonkay · Post by **Fonkay** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:33 am

Lucifer wrote: Because if people play "open" with me, then when (not if) I get out of their tunnel, I'm going to slap them in the smallest, most tightly sealed box I can.

Me too...

Mine's more of an if than a when though.

newbie · Post by **newbie** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:43 am

what about half open and half closed?

cetialpha · Post by **cetialpha** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:06 pm

Wow. I never heard so many people complain about having a distinct advantage over other players.

I like playing open for no other reason than because I think it's more fun. I didn't really even play this game much before I discovered "open". But, again, it comes down to personal preferences. I think there are enough open players out there to conclude that we are not suffering from some sort of mental illness because we like to play open.

That being said I thoroughly enjoy beating closed players while playing open. So, please, feel free to try and close me in a small tight box. In fact, JJ Bean was doing that to me last night. I wasn't complaining at all. In fact he was REALLY good at it. It just makes the game more interesting and gives me something to work at countering. At least that's somewhat of a challenge. I find many players just make huge boxes and basically camp outside the box.

As for creating a forced open server. Tested it out with Bort on one of the FA servers and it really didn't work. I mean you couldn't close, but you also couldn't squeeze in tight spaces. Also, half the fun of playing open is learning to control your cycle at high speeds and not close. It's an interesting idea, but again, I don't mind playing people who close...as long as they play closed in a way that is interesting (i.e. like JJ Bean). But I'll try and toy with it some more and see if there is a way. I'm pretty new at the server settings so...

Anyway, this topic is getting outta hand now. Close/Open/Whatever. Whatever floats yer boat.

Post by **Lucifer** » Thu May 24, 2007 6:33 pm

Well, technically the topic isn't "do you like open/closed play?", it's "Why are people whining when I don't play open?". It's just carrying your normal budget of general trash-talking along with it.

root down · Post by **root down** » Thu May 24, 2007 11:08 pm

cetialpha wrote:things

it sounds like you enjoy the game more when people force you to play closed. it's more interesting, right?

cetialpha · Post by **cetialpha** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:52 pm

It's just carrying your normal budget of general trash-talking along with it.

hehe But at least it's cheap! Who doesn't love freebies?

And root down and I got to take our frustrations out on each other in gland last night so it's all good.

hehe Good times.

Oh, and root down, I keep forgetting to ask you where in Canada you're from.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:06 pm

/me west coast of BC

cetialpha · Post by **cetialpha** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:38 pm

Cool. I used to live in Whistler, BC back in 98. I could handle moving back out to BC. It's either Ottawa (only if I get a job working for the Liberals), Montreal (just a beautiful city), Vancouver/Victoria, or I stay put here in Halifax.

Though I could be tempted to move south of the 49th to New England.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:32 pm

I live in squamish, it's between vancouver and whistler

root down · Post by **root down** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:33 pm

thunder (******) bay

Post by **Lucifer** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:42 pm

Why in hell would you want to move south of the 49th?