LADLE 36

[prettylights]

I am confused, I don't recall ever recall discussing the morality of the issue???

And agreed psyko ^^

morality? i think the word is sportsmanship. and youre right, no one was discussing that. this topic is now mostly about sp. where do you expect to find that

[sunny]

this topic is now mostly about sp.

cause sp did all the mess???

Guys come on, it happened, it is/was wrong, let it go and now go on.
Vote what should happened next ladle. Make new rules.
Because this discussion won't end, everybody has their own perspective and won't understand the other.

Sad. But true.

[Word]

imo the only player who clearly deserves a perma ban is orion for ignoring the perfect hole

[þsy]

Hey guys,

I've only been back a week or two, having been away from the arma community for five months. Naturally as I was around yesterday, I played for SP like usual etc etc.

Having found out after the ladle about all this mess, I'd quite to like to say it would be pretty unfair on the rest of SP (who didn't know about this stuff/didn't do it) if we were all banned next ladle. I personally agree with the majority of the arma community, and think it was an unfair thing to do.

If someone needs to be punished - i.e. banned for the next ladle, then it should it only be one or two people from SP, not the entire clan who had next to no involvement in this. I don't understand why there needs to be a punishment, someone from SP (I still don't know who) tried to change the teams around - which is not breaking rules but as we have established is not allowed (there is a difference!), and people made sure it was swapped back, no harm done?

Anyway lets not go into that. What I propose is if you guys feel the need to punish SP, you punish one or two from the clan and not the entire clan who are innocent. I would therefore like to propose that me and Roger That take the ban for next ladle, as two representatives from SP.

Would that settle things?

Good to be back

[dreadlord]

No. Because you and roger that had nothing to do with this. Actually it is just dishonorable what orion and Flex have done. There was no rule or something that would have disallowed the switch but to be honest, that's not what you would expect of a clan like SP.

I do not know if we can punish them now, and I am not even sure if we should do it. Both of them should just think about what they've done, perhaps they will notice their mistake by this.

[Word]

it's honorable that you want to sacrifice yourselves, but like you and dread said it's not your fault, and your clan wouldn't draw a lesson from it.

I agree that nobody of SP2 should get banned. The matches we played were fair and they even agreed with playing in an EU server (which was probably the reason for our win).

[sunny]

Would that settle things?

would be really senseless... like word mentioned

[Spook]

pointing out that you were switching to play a harder team is irrelevant. the point is that switching to play a harder team also makes it permissible to switch and play an easier team. for example, no one points out the advantage Orion's team gained from the switch. no one expected them to win, but that should also be noted since advantages were given.

sp tries so hard. as if just having two teams isnt enough of an advantage in da ladle

Actually that could be a good vote no more the one clan team per ladle

[Word]

added

edit: here's the Ladle 36 OST

[Gonzap]

come on just ban the whole sp or shut the f*** up. I bet if vcl did this they were already banned...


this discussion is bullshit and it does not belong to the community to talk about it, but to people that make this tourney possible, and we play with their rules. What they decide is what we are gonna do. Period.

[Spook]

come on just ban the whole sp or shut the f*** up. I bet if vcl did this they were already banned..

they almost did they same but they just imposter us and didnt show but there not bann

[Olive]

Hey guys,

I've only been back a week or two, having been away from the arma community for five months. Naturally as I was around yesterday, I played for SP like usual etc etc.

Having found out after the ladle about all this mess, I'd quite to like to say it would be pretty unfair on the rest of SP (who didn't know about this stuff/didn't do it) if we were all banned next ladle. I personally agree with the majority of the arma community, and think it was an unfair thing to do.

If someone needs to be punished - i.e. banned for the next ladle, then it should it only be one or two people from SP, not the entire clan who had next to no involvement in this. I don't understand why there needs to be a punishment, someone from SP (I still don't know who) tried to change the teams around - which is not breaking rules but as we have established is not allowed (there is a difference!), and people made sure it was swapped back, no harm done?

Anyway lets not go into that. What I propose is if you guys feel the need to punish SP, you punish one or two from the clan and not the entire clan who are innocent. I would therefore like to propose that me and Roger That take the ban for next ladle, as two representatives from SP.

Would that settle things?

Good to be back

From the ladle guidelines:
Elect a Team Captain who you can trust, who listens to everyone in the team, who is capable of communicating with other Team Captains, and can follow the procedure to the letter on the night.

IMO this means the team captain is responsible for the team, although you would most likely dissagree.

EDIT:
According to the rules, the only persons who can get punished are flex, magic, psy, sasha, cyclo, oblivion, mb53. Since it's generally known magic, psy etc. are flex's puppets it would be more than fair to exclude them from the vote, however the screenshot on magic saying they planned it before makes them all responsible.
/EDIT


Anyways, before posting read the whole thread

[Lord Pein]

come on just ban the whole sp or shut the f*** up. I bet if vcl did this they were already banned..

they almost did they same but they just imposter us and didnt show but there not bann

You know we did that just because you were running around with our clan tags.

Also, our no-show was not planned when we registered. Two of our members had things come up and could not make it, so some of our members played for the open team instead.

[Hoax]

Psy's post is pretty laughable. Saying how not the whole team is punishable and then putting forward two 'innocent' puppets to take the wrap? Understand that no one gives a shit about punishing you; just to realise that what you did was cuntish.
I don't think the community should waste anymore time over discussing bans etc. But you can be sure that any 'tampering' with the challenge board in the future will get one.

[noob_saibot]

So if they aren't going to be banned, their win should be void. If not that's bullshit. In other words you're letting them have their cake, and letting them eat it too!!! No good saibot says. Nullify win, period.