Armagetron is NOT dead, here's why and how to keep growing

[Phytotron]

I decided not to waste my money till there's more players.

Edit: Jinx -

Wait, I'm confused. Is that screenshot supposed to somehow show a thriving game? Folks, that is dead. The first few years I played, that kind of population was as low as it got in the most off-peak hours. I'm posting this at just shy of 9 PM Eastern on a Thursday, and here's what the population currently looks like:

Ten years ago, I would see more people than that at 3 in the morning on a Monday. At peak hours, fairly sure I remember there being hundreds of players. And they weren't there for gimmicky game modes.

[ConVicT]

Yes, in comparison with wait it's been like lately, that's pretty active lol.

[S0lutai]

that's pretty active lol.

Please, just, don't.

Pytho has some really good points and I don't think I could have said anything better. Stop being so conformists about ten players playing this game.

Oh, I'll do something about tron being as dead as wolverine, I'll tell my friends to play it, even if they just don't like it, at least I tried.

^ Said no one ever

Oh ok, I got a free hour, I'll play tron! Oh nevermind that's gross! I'd rather go check the dead forums of a dead game and answer every silly post I find, because that's better than actually playing the game, right?

Point everyone missed of all this thread: the thing that will make tron grow is getting people to play this game. What's the point of having main servers, tutorials etc etc when no one is gonna play? Or did you really think that putting some extra official servers is going to make tron dramatically grow? There are thousand servers in this game, another one is not going to make a difference.

[Ratchet]

Point everyone missed of all this thread: the thing that will make tron grow is getting people to play this game. What's the point of having main servers, tutorials etc etc when no one is gonna play? Or did you really think that putting some extra official servers is going to make tron dramatically grow? There are thousand servers in this game, another one is not going to make a difference.

Actually, on the contrary, I think you missed the point. If you have a look around you'll see that getting people to play ArmagetronAd is not the problem.

See for yourself.

Moreso, if you visit that link, also have a look at the top post (by Z-man) on that page. It begins with:

I don't think attracting people to the game is the problem. Look at the SF download stats, we're getting 750-1000 downloads each day (there were times when it was twice as much).

I think you'll find that what everyone (except you, of course) has realized is that the problem is keeping the players we gain interested.

Which, by the way, having easily identifiable servers with a more straightforward objective (as opposed to zones and flags everywhere) is likely to do.

[S0lutai]

All you stated was made pretty clear by Durf early on this topic, I encourage you to read it.

EDIT: maybe it was by Z-man himself? I don't remember.

Also was death match with no flags/zones ever really popular? (Besides the very first years when the game was new) I think I've played long enough to say it was not. Fast Track and High Rubber are kind of excluded because... Ehem...

Rubber kills gameplay!

[Lucifer]

Point everyone missed of all this thread: the thing that will make tron grow is getting people to play this game. What's the point of having main servers, tutorials etc etc when no one is gonna play? Or did you really think that putting some extra official servers is going to make tron dramatically grow? There are thousand servers in this game, another one is not going to make a difference.

Everything written up to this point (and including it) I totally agree with.

You want the game to grow? Play it. Mutherfucking play the game!

I agree with that 100%.

I'll try to do more in the way of leadership on that. Should I fail, I expect each and every one of you who have posted wanted to grow the game to pick up my slack.

Deal?

[Ratchet]

Also was death match with no flags/zones ever really popular? (Besides the very first years when the game was new) I think I've played long enough to say it was not. Fast Track and High Rubber are kind of excluded because... Ehem...

Rubber kills gameplay!

I can't tell if you're being serious or trolling.

Most all of the longest-standing servers were just plain, old, boring deathmatch. It's what people expect when they download this game. Even a win zone may be confusing at first

[Lucifer]

Most all of the longest-standing servers were just plain, old, boring deathmatch. It's what people expect when they download this game. Even a win zone may be confusing at first

I want to disagree with this, because to me, it's obvious what a winzone is.

However, I've seen it confuse so many people, you're right. It is confusing. It shouldn't be, but it is.

****, even *I* was confused the first few times I saw it. What do I do with this? If I walk into it, do I win? If I do win, does it count as a win? Maybe I should ignore it and see what the other player does.....

[Amaso]

Okay we agree this game is on Life Support now let's think of making the new players stay. I remember years back D.O.G.F.I.G.H.T kept noobs to stay

[Word]

Is there anything this half-wit and his bff asdasd are good at? Reading or playing armagetron (from what I've seen) can't be it.

[Amaso]

Is there anything this half-wit and his bff asdasd are good at? Reading or playing armagetron (from what I've seen) can't be it.

This coming from the stupid mother fvcker who tries to hard to sound magniloquent when he types. Word what have you done for this game besides lurk the forums. pRu was a fail and we all know where that went. When is pRu gonna make a miraculous comeback? I hope it's before Tron is completely dead bahahahah. Your IQ level seems to be slowly fading away based on the doltishness you bring to the table.
Question of The Day: How many contradictory threads does it take to bring a dead game back to life folks?

[Word]

pRu

Ohhhh, you discovered my only weakness!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

(on a side note, i actually took two IQ tests yesterday, for the first time after 8 years, because....after this Durf discussion I wanted to convince myself that I can still think logically and didn't go insane there as well, like Amaso here suggested - and to procrastinate, obviously. I scored 138 in the one with 20 questions, and 137 in the longer test with 57 questions. I guess that means I'm still not as burned-out as I thought, but many people on these forums would easily get a higher score. Generally IQ test results say very little about a person IMO. Especially whenever I happen to have a bad result. )

[Durf]

I scored 138 in the one with 20 questions, and 137 in the longer test with 57 questions. I guess that means I'm still not as burned-out as I thought, but many people on these forums would easily get a higher score. Generally IQ test results say very little about a person IMO. Especially whenever I happen to have a bad result. )

Besides the old fashioned IQ test (over 100 questions, and different kinds like spatial IQ) now being out of date, the tests you took are basically fake.
http://www.themarysue.com/iq-tests-how-do-they-work/ - some reading
Typically you would have to pay for an IQ test (or other forms of tests).
The "IQ" test (the real one) doesn't really work anymore anyway (you are right to have your suspicions) because it is like a one-size fits-all kind of test, and it made for inaccurate scores. The questions themselves often depend common knowledge in the area, so foreigners often failed these tests even if they were really smart.
Modern tests end up testing specific areas of your cognitive function - using more general questions / puzzles to test the ability that everyone has, regardless of location (though there are still localized versions of these newer tests).

I did the WAIS-IV when I got my diagnosis.

Should I bother talking about the psychology behind verifying one's own intelligence (with fake tests)? Nah, I'll just leave it at that.

[/dev/null]

Obviously, an offbrand test for a silly thing is amazing.

You sure showed him.

I bet you also believe in a paleo diet.

[S0lutai]

I scored 138 in the one with 20 questions, and 137 in the longer test with 57 questions. I guess that means I'm still not as burned-out as I thought, but many people on these forums would easily get a higher score. Generally IQ test results say very little about a person IMO. Especially whenever I happen to have a bad result. )

Besides the old fashioned IQ test (over 100 questions, and different kinds like spatial IQ) now being out of date, the tests you took are basically fake.
http://www.themarysue.com/iq-tests-how-do-they-work/ - some reading
Typically you would have to pay for an IQ test (or other forms of tests).
The "IQ" test (the real one) doesn't really work anymore anyway (you are right to have your suspicions) because it is like a one-size fits-all kind of test, and it made for inaccurate scores. The questions themselves often depend common knowledge in the area, so foreigners often failed these tests even if they were really smart.
Modern tests end up testing specific areas of your cognitive function - using more general questions / puzzles to test the ability that everyone has, regardless of location (though there are still localized versions of these newer tests).

I did the WAIS-IV when I got my diagnosis.

Should I bother talking about the psychology behind verifying one's own intelligence (with fake tests)? Nah, I'll just leave it at that.

This is the most useless thing said in this thread.