Cheating?

[Prey4Me]

*prey watches as the hand of Z-man comes from above to smack subby in the back of the head*

[Speedracer]

*prey watches as the hand of Z-man comes from above to smack subby in the back of the head*

What the hell

[nicolas.b]

*prey watches as the hand of Z-man comes from above to smack subby in the back of the head*

[n54]

personally i'm tired of the choir singing "cheater!" each time i win my fifth match in a row

cheating kills more than it saves so if any opponent of mine wants to cheat i say go ahead, ruin your selfesteem while losing even more than before (i base this on the test nico has done <-- do i remember correctly?)

i'm also slightly tired of the word lag, especially when used by ppl who haven't grasped the idea that you have to do some ping compensation (and that it's not always the same)

[Prey4Me]

lol n54, its funny even when you kicked my ass i never chalked it up to cheating i just knew you were skilled and that i wanted to aspire to be as good as you, still working on that

[Zapple]

I don't alwayss blame it on lag, alot I do,lol, but lately I have based it on my crappy 3-4-5 FPS, thats why I havent been playing alot lately. I think it has to do with my laptop powersource, I'm changing some of the settings in both computer and game ito try to improve it. I hope it works because of those people that are like "Oh man, this sucks, only 45 FPS" Sorry if I'm getting a little off topic.

[Prey4Me]

lol its ok, everyone gets lag though no matter what fps they are
either you are the one lagging or you are seeing other ppl that are lagging
so everyone is basically in the same boat

[nicolas.b]

i base this on the test nico has done <-- do i remember correctly

are you sure you mean me, node? i can't remember finding a bonafide way to cheat, although i found some tricks:

- an unpopular alias that people crash over in their haste to defeat?
- hoodwinking other players through psychological warfare?
- i never spent much time with ping comp of 65535
- lag bombing? i spent one day doing that, i think
- my use of a gamepad to play?
- i definitely edited my settings files, but that the server overrides of course

ummm... uhhh?

[Zapple]

lol its ok, everyone gets lag though no matter what fps they are
either you are the one lagging or you are seeing other ppl that are lagging
so everyone is basically in the same boat

No, I mean, Lagsliding all the time whail skipping frames, it really stinks. Its like, ok, let me play with my left hand whail blindfolded, WITH no volume. lol

[Prey4Me]

lol i get 60 fps usually and i still lagslide, sometimes only a little and sometimes all the time, it all depends on the conditions you are in

[subby]

I belive the lag slide comes from the change in arma's "ping" value . What i mean is a ping value goes from 220 ms to 320 ms (which is normal for me) making the server readjust where you are and hence slide (I'm used to the slides now). As far as i know my ICMP packets or any other of my packet very rarely has that much variation.

I believe this to be a bug in the net code.

before goshdarn went "kaput" it said on a good day i had 230 ms and a normal day 300+

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  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     8 ms    11 ms     8 ms  10.47.0.1
  3    12 ms     7 ms     7 ms  sun1-pos2-2.gw.optusnet.com.au [198.142.192.49]

  4     9 ms    10 ms     9 ms  meb1-pos3-6.gw.optusnet.com.au [211.29.129.137]

  5    22 ms     8 ms     8 ms  meb2-ge1.gw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.96.66]
  6    11 ms    19 ms    10 ms  61.88.143.33
  7    24 ms    23 ms    26 ms  gi3-0.ig6.optus.net.au [61.88.178.8]
  8   179 ms   187 ms   179 ms  203.208.148.101
  9   178 ms   184 ms   183 ms  203.208.168.133
 10   178 ms   182 ms   179 ms  203.208.168.114
 11   178 ms   179 ms   179 ms  sntcca2lce1.wcg.net [198.32.176.139]
 12   180 ms   186 ms   184 ms  sntcca1wcx1-pos9-0.net [64.200.240.217]
 13   184 ms   181 ms   181 ms  anhmca1wcx3-pos3-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.109
]
 14   184 ms   184 ms   185 ms  sndgca1wce2-pos3-0.wcg.net [64.200.141.18]
 15   184 ms   184 ms   208 ms  sndgca1wce1-calfregional-gige.wcg.net [65.77.90.
42]
 16   190 ms   186 ms   188 ms  surveyor.mars.org [209.126.142.251]

and fo an average using win32

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C:\Documents and Settings\sdw\Desktop>ping -n 10 www.armagetron.mars.org

Pinging surveyor.mars.org [209.126.142.251] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=184ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=184ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=184ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=189ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.126.142.251: bytes=32 time=184ms TTL=242

Ping statistics for 209.126.142.251:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 184ms, Maximum = 192ms, Average = 186ms

C:\Documents and Settings\sdw\Desktop>

not only have i never seen 220 ms but the normal 300 + ms is just wrong and so is the 200 -> 300 change (or for you americans 50 ->150 change)

[Prey4Me]

very interesting *prey wonders if anyone else could translate what subby wrote*

[subby]

very interesting *prey wonders if anyone else could translate what subby wrote*

lol i read it myself and it made little sense lol

so i've edited it, Mr speed reply!

[Zapple]

very interesting *prey wonders if anyone else could translate what subby wrote*

No *before pray said that Zapple looked at it and thought he know what subby said* lol

[Prey4Me]

why are there three columns for the ms?