PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

A place for threads related to tournaments and the like, and things related too.

Moderator: Light

User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Flex wrote:First off, if you followed the rules on the wiki, why is insa, fofo and eckz involved in this vote?
Team Leaders must list their Global ID on the Challenge board. Players can not be signed up under multiple teams. You may only play for one team each Ladle.
They did not violate rule #2... Can you be clear on what rule they broke or how you're reading it?
It was brought up that they knew about multiple players being signed up on the wiki, and did nothing to fix it. Someone wanted them punished, so they get included. Thats what the vote is for. If you don't believe they should be punished, vote no then...
Flex wrote:Also just to be clear.. who's vote are you going to favour if only "one vote per team" if you PM'ed both team leaders?
If you read the wiki wrote:Team Leaders discuss the vote with their team.
Team Leaders and server admins, send their vote back to the Ladle enthusiast. Teams with more than one Team Leader should only send one vote.
Flex wrote:These kind of sloppy polls should not be done. If you can't be proper about it, just don't do it.
Whats sloppy about it?
Image
Flex
Round Winner
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:44 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by Flex »

You'll hate me for this, but I want you punished for being stupid. :(

You just confirmed they didn't break rule #2... So why is the vote being cast as them breaking that rule.. You're saying they broke a none existent rule? Why don't you just say that in your vote..

See where it gets sloppy?
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Flex wrote:You'll hate me for this, but I want you punished for being stupid. :(

You just confirmed they didn't break rule #2... So why is the vote being cast as them breaking that rule.. You're saying they broke a none existent rule? Why don't you just say that in your vote..

See where it gets sloppy?
They knew a rule was being broken, and did nothing about it. Therefore they broke the rule of players being signed up on multiple teams. I'm not stating my opinion, just restating what someone else said in the other thread. Thats what the vote is for to determine if the rule was broken.
Last edited by ElmosWorld on Sun May 13, 2012 3:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Concord wrote:we still don't know exactly what happened. And even if we do, it hasn't been stated clearly and confirmed by multiple sources. Before people vote on what to do, it's critical we collect all the details.
That's what poke said as well, and here is insa's response.
-*inS*- wrote:
PokeMaster wrote:Before we vote, howabout we give each player a chance to explain themselves? I'm going to wait at least a few days to vote so that I can hear each individual's side of the story. (Although to be fair, they have had plenty of time to clear their name in the ladle topic if they cared to do so.)
If you want to ask me anything in specific, you know where to find me, I'll answer anything. I don't feel like I have anything left to say on these boards however.

(This applies to everyone else as well)
It would seem he won't post anymore about it, but if you want to know, all you have to do is ask him.
Image
Flex
Round Winner
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:44 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by Flex »

So you're specifically reading "Players can not be signed up under multiple teams."

Alright so you want to read it like that.. So who's they? All three of them signed and edited the wiki? Aren't you after the one who "signed" them up? Or are you accusing all of them?

I don't see insanity, fofo or eckz on any of the team rosters.. Just potter and slash and you're allowed to swap two players per team, right? And did they agree to be signed up by Team uNk? Is it the team leader's responsibility or the players?
User avatar
kyle
Reverse Outside Corner Grinder
Posts: 1975
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:33 pm
Location: Indiana, USA, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe, Multiverse
Contact:

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by kyle »

http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... ldid=38817 should be the last edit before the ladle has began (Note: the challenge board is filled becuase it is an included template)
Image
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Flex wrote:So you're specifically reading "Players can not be signed up under multiple teams."

Alright so you want to read it like that.. So who's they? All three of them signed and edited the wiki? Aren't you after the one who "signed" them up? Or are you accusing all of them?

I don't see insanity, fofo or eckz on any of the team rosters.. Just potter and slash and you're allowed to swap two players per team, right? And did they agree to be signed up by Team uNk? Is it the team leader's responsibility or the players?
I'm reading names that were mentioned in the Ladle 57 thread, not the challenge board, not anywhere else.
Image
Concord
Reverse Outside Corner Grinder
Posts: 1661
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:24 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by Concord »

the rules aren't the point, anyway. The question is whether these players violated the community.


besides,
If a player is accused of violating a rule or committing an offense not defined by the rules
Flex
Round Winner
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:44 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by Flex »

Oh lookie here...

http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... ldid=38766

Team "Team Baylife" signed up before Team uNk... So who fault is it that signed them up...?

Not Insanity (the team leader) Not FoFo or Eckz (Team members that also did not touch the wiki)..

So.... who's to blame that "signed up" under multiple teams?

Wap.. nope, removed before the deadline.
potter & slash, added by somebody not included in the votes..

vov... well... this one can be classed as a player "swap" and should have been edited accordingly.

violated the community? shut up... because they are also being violated.
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Flex wrote:Oh lookie here...

http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... ldid=38766

Team "Team Baylife" signed up before Team uNk... So who fault is it that signed them up...?

Not Insanity (the team leader) Not FoFo or Eckz (Team members that also did not touch the wiki)..

So.... who's to blame that "signed up" under multiple teams?

Wap.. nope, removed before the deadline.
potter & slash, added by somebody not included in the votes..

vov... well... this one can be classed as a player "swap" and should have been edited accordingly.

violated the community? shut up... because they are also being violated.
This isn't for me or you to decide. It's for the community to decide and that is why this vote exists.
Image
Flex
Round Winner
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:44 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by Flex »

So the others that also "violated" the rules go unpunished, in your logic?
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Flex wrote:So the others that also "violated" the rules go unpunished, in your logic?
Which is whom?
Image
User avatar
-*inS*-
Round Winner
Posts: 320
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:31 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by -*inS*- »

ElmosWorld wrote:
Flex wrote:Potter and Slash seem to be signed up, but in retrospect you have to investigate whether they agreed to be signed up or were signed up without their agreement..
ppotter wrote:Although yes I (or "my" alias) was added to the challenge board during/after the ladle, I did know about the team etc. So if you are going to admonish vov/slash, then I deserve as well (if not more so, when I got home I did consider playing for both Baylife and uNk).
http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... diff=38787

This vote is quite silly imo. But if it makes those who are deeply hurt feel any better then i suppose it's a good thing.
Image
User avatar
ElmosWorld
Match Winner
Posts: 610
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by ElmosWorld »

Jip didn't add the names only the server.

http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... ldid=38787

3.142 added them back after slash removed them

http://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php? ... ldid=38789
Image
User avatar
-*inS*-
Round Winner
Posts: 320
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:31 pm

Re: PM Vote Trial for Ladle 57

Post by -*inS*- »

I couldn't care less who added the names, I'm pointing out slash made an active attempt to remove them, what more do you want from him??
Image
Post Reply