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[Clutch]

Then I'm sorry, I'm in the wrong.

I'm stoned all the time, doesn't stop me from doing anything. Except sex sometimes.

So pathetic.

Think what you want I guess, I'm just tellin' it like it is. I live in a town where the only means of entertainment are to play street hockey, party, or go to the movies. There's also a bowling alley, but no one here likes bowling.

[sinewav]

I live in a town where the only means of entertainment are to play street hockey, party, or go to the movies.

I'm sorry to hear you and your friends aren't creative and imaginative enough to entertain yourselves. I can't remember ever being bored when I was a kid. There was just to much of the world to explore through art, music, literature, and sport. I never even got to the community orientated stuff.

[Phytotron]

I wasn't only calling the first part about being stoned all the time pathetic, though sinewav is right. I was referring to the entirety of both sentences, which is why I, you know, quoted both sentences.

Clause 1) Being stoned all the time is pathetic.
Clause 2) I don't believe you that it doesn't stop you from doing anything; the preceding two posts point to evidence of that. But even if it doesn't now, it will very soon, guaranteed. And since you do it so much—and especially at your age with your brain still developing—it will for a long time to come, even long after if-and-when you quit.
Clause 3) a) In the first place, what are you doing at your age and maturity level having sex frequently enough that it gets precluded or interrupted by being stoned, especially if you're saying you're stoned all the time?
b) "Too stoned to have sex" is self-evidently pathetic, but here's a song to smack you around further.

[Clutch]

1. I guess it depends on how you look at it. Although I thought I saw you mentionthat you used to do a bunch of drugs yourself Though I might be thinking of someone else.
2. Yeah you're right, there's obviously going to be some damage to my lungs, my memory is generally shot, and I can't do math very great anymore. But honestly, I'm not very creative, smart, or anything. I'm exceedingly average, which means I'm probabl not going anywhere in life anyways
3. I don't get it frequently, more like..tri-monthly. And it's easy, you just have to go to parties.

It's easy to do it when you're high. But once you reach a certain "high-ness", you can't..finish. Not only is it pathetic, it's like torture. And uhh very..eloquent lyrics

[Phytotron]

I thought I saw you mention that you used to do a bunch of drugs yourself.

I did, a lot. That's why I know better. You don't have a clue.

As I've also mentioned (in your own dang thread even), I've personally known and continue to know people who've been or continue to be even heavier substance abusers than I ever was, full-on junkies; people who ruined their lives, families, relationships with others, jobs, their music or art, and even died. That's not fun or funny.

Yes, even those who were solely pot heads have messed up some combination of all of the above (except for dying).

And those who managed to get through it and come out the other side still suffer various long-term effects, as you will.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to value any of these things, or yourself.

And it's easy, you just have to go to parties.

Yeah, still pathetic. Have a little more respect for yourself, or if not for yourself then for these girls you're using.

[Clutch]

Hey, it takes two to tango, I'm not somehow manipulating girls into doing something they don't want to do.

Also, I only have 1 and a half years of freedom, then I have to go out into the big, boring world. I'm sure as hell not going to spend it sitting in a library reading. What my friends and I do for fun may not necessarily be "right" (if you like to see things in black and white), but I honestly don't think it's wrong either.

[sinewav]

Hey, it takes two to tango, I'm not somehow manipulating girls into doing something they don't want to do.

Also, I only have 1 and a half years of freedom, then I have to go out into the big, boring world. I'm sure as hell not going to spend it sitting in a library reading. What my friends and I do for fun may not necessarily be "right" (if you like to see things in black and white), but I honestly don't think it's wrong either.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, put your brakes on...

Ok. Listen, no one is expecting you to magically transform into an ideal. Judging by your posts, it seems like you have a kind of bad outlook on life. Having a bad outlook is not something that's in any way your fault. It happens to people when unfortunate events happen at inauspicious times. A bad outlook is also something extremely hard to fix. The fact you feel this way at such a young age just highlights the urgency to address it, because it only get worse as you get older.

Here, I'm going to say somethings you can forget about as soon as you read them. It's up to you to determine if they have value later.

Life. It doesn't stop and turn into endless boredom after school. Or, it won't if you plan accordingly. To plan accordingly, you need to balance the time you spend enjoying yourself with activities that ensure you can enjoy yourself later. The best activity you can do to ensure you enjoy yourself later is asking questions. I already see you asking questions here (take this thread for example). But it's not enough just to ask any questions, you need to ask the right ones. But how do you know which are the right ones? By asking people you look up to which are the best questions to ask. If they don't understand the question "what are the best questions," then move on to someone who does. So, you see, you don't need to spend all your time in a library, you just need to cultivate your natural inquisitive side. The more informed you are, the better decisions you make, and the less boring you life is.

Drugs. It's not a black and white subject. One of my heroes was a pot enthusiast, so it's hard for me to dismiss the subject entirely. He was an enormously successful person. He was also the exception for drug usage, not the rule. After personally trying drugs and seeing their effects, I've decided reality is way too amazing to spend any part of it inebriated. I am also the exception, not the rule. Drugs, however, affect your ability to make decisions, so consider that with the above paragraph.

Girls. Er... Interpersonal relationships are complicated at best. But I do have some great advice, and it involves asking a question (again). In all your relationships (not just girls mind you), you need to regularly evaluate and confirm them by asking yourself the following: "Does being in a relationship with this person enrich both our lives and help each of us become better, stronger, more courageous and loving?" Admittedly, that's probably the last thing you're going to think about when you are totally buzzed in a dark room fumbling to find the proper side of a condom, but if you do I guarantee you'll make better decisions. But if you don't remember to ask yourself that question, at least try to remember to take your socks off for chrissake.

To me you're one of the more interesting characters in Tron, Clutch, so I eventually hope you see a brighter future ahead.

[Kijutsu]

this thread turned into clutch bragging he's had sex, while he's obviously a virgin

also i find it hilarious SOPA has gotten so much attention and the NDAA hasn't

[Phytotron]

Wait, who said anything about libraries or made an absolutist right/wrong moral statement about drug use?

Hey, it takes two to tango

No excuse.

I'm not somehow manipulating girls into doing something they don't want to do.

Don't be so cocksure, pun intended. And, again, no excuse.

[Kijutsu]

calm down phytotron, your anger is on a whole new level, not even sure what you're accusing clutch of doing? raping? for christ sake..

[Clutch]

this thread turned into clutch bragging he's had sex, while he's obviously a virgin

also i find it hilarious SOPA has gotten so much attention and the NDAA hasn't

Lol. How am I bragging? It's not like it's some big achievement anyways. But yes I agree the thread has definitely got a bit off track

Sine thanks a lot for the words of wisdom (I mean it sincerely, I'm just really bad at showing my gratitude), Phytotron, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Phytotron]

Well, clearly Liz has gotten bored with the lack of trolling and shit on this forum lately, so she's had to get busy again.

There's obviously no anger here, and obviously no accusation of rape. Get lost, Liz.

Also, I only have 1 and a half years of freedom, then I have to go out into the big, boring world.

And this is bullshit, too, as I'm pretty sure we've told you before. There's so much more to the world and life, if you can get your pot-filled head out of your ass and appreciate it and bother to take advantage of it. If someone peaked as a teenager, these few years out of the entirety of your life, there are few things more pathetic than that. You're not even taking advantage of your teen years, wasting them away stoned all the time, playing video games, behind a computer screen, "partying."

[Mkay1]

I enjoyed reading both this thread and the clutch experience. I'm not sure why, either. Though I am of roughly the same age, Clutch and I are totally different in many aspects.

edit: oh, I enjoyed how phytotron wanted clutch to be informed about the topic he presented. Not this topic specifically, but that goes for all topics in general. Although there would certainly be disagreements between people, the conversations would be more intellectual, and enriching than just, "Bush is stupid." "Obama sucks." If I don't know about something, I either do one of a few things. Shut up and don't make myself sound stupid, or research it so I can be informed, unlike most people.

[sinewav]

Here's one possible scenario: If Clutch tends to get bored easily, there is a chance he'll get bored of drugs easily too and this whole thing will be a short "phase."

Have GCF instead!

[Clutch]

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Nevermind, let's get this back on track