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Re: Fortress Clan League (FCL)

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I'd like to point out that plx also won against R without Titan and TX didn't do a lot better now that they lost Hoax and don't have Curb/Goody/Rudy. DS has now only 1 or 2 active members.

By this definition you can call any team a Second Tier team when they don't have the key players that know how to stay alive. If you practice with teams whose players all don't know how to stay alive there's no real point to play for the usually-at-least-medium teams because their problems aren't solved like that, and the new teams won't learn anything if they keep playing a team of 2 or 3 better forters, regardless who wins. It wouldn't be too hard for SpeedDemons to beat DS and afterwards they'd go around and brag that they just won against one of the oldest fort teams (in a very weak phase).
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Word wrote:I'd like to point out that plx also won against R without Titan and olive and concord
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Given the current state of tx, etc. I am going to change the rules about who cannot play in the FCL. A team that has been seeded in the Ladle in the 3 months prior to when the sign-ups open for an FCL season (2 months), cannot sign up. That would mean that uNk, CT, SP, R, mYM, and plx are disqualified from signing up for the current season of FCL. Thanks for pointing out this glaring flaw.

So, just a reminder to DS and TX. I have decided to set the minimum number of players to sign up is 4. You can add up to 5 additional players to your roster at any time, they just have to be an actual trainee, recruit, or whatever you call it for your clan. Also, if you have some people that want to help you fill out your team to a full roster of 6+ just bring them, and if the other team doesn't object, its fine. The servers will be set for 8v8, and if the teams agree to play unbalanced, thats fine too. The matches you play will be recorded to see who won what, but they have no effect on how you will be seeded in the Bi-Monthly tournament. That will be random seeds. So, in a way, it doesn't really matter who wins. These matches are meant to be fun, and venues to try out new strategies, etc.
The Bi-Monthly Tournament will be quite different. It will be structured exactly like the Ladle. It will take place on the Third Saturday of the month.

I bet that plx has a great shot at winning the Ladle 51 too.
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Oh I may be wrong, but I just want to point out I was meaning to organise something like this just under a year ago (when I was with Tu), and if I'm not mistaken, it was ID themselves who were the loudest against it.

I find this ironic (but Phytotron would have to confirm I have the correct definition :D)
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syllabear wrote:Oh I may be wrong, but I just want to point out I was meaning to organise something like this just under a year ago (when I was with Tu), and if I'm not mistaken, it was ID themselves who were the loudest against it.

I find this ironic (but Phytotron would have to confirm I have the correct definition :D)
Sylla, I was wracking my brain to try to remember who was trying to organize something like this last year. This is NOT being organized by ID. It is not ID branded. A few ID members are involved in the process. However, I am organizing this as a community effort. I was trying to figure out who to pm about it, and using Google to search the forums wasn't helping. Would you like to help?
Also, I don't know if I was an ID'r that was shooting you down or not, but if I was, I apologize. Please understand the culture of ID has changed a lot in the last year. Consider this, in the last Ladle, because most of our Fortress Players have either gone in active, or are too busy playing HR/DF, paired up with VcL players to field a decent team. ID has really gotten back to it's roots of being an HR/DF clan that plays anything. Now, for those of you who know the history if ID/VcL, would you have thought we would have ever had a joint Ladle Team? I am so proud of both clans for re-establishing what at one time was a strong friendship friendship between two clans that have a lot in common.
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Re: Fortress Clan League (FCL)

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compguygene wrote:
syllabear wrote:Oh I may be wrong, but I just want to point out I was meaning to organise something like this just under a year ago (when I was with Tu), and if I'm not mistaken, it was ID themselves who were the loudest against it.

I find this ironic (but Phytotron would have to confirm I have the correct definition :D)
Would you like to help? Also, I don't know if I was an ID'r that was shooting you down or not, but if I was, I apologize.
1) No
2) I don't really care, I just pointed out the irony
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Sylla, if nothing else, I hope you put a team together.
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VCL has been seeded before when I played with them, we came til semi finals. By that logic, none of them are allowed to enter.
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compguygene wrote:A team that has been seeded in the Ladle in the 3 months prior to when the sign-ups open for an FCL season (2 months), cannot sign up.
No, they didn't get a seed in the past 3 months
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why not just split the ladle?

I'm not a proponent of the above suggestion, just seems like the simplest form of your idea.
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This is a weekly get together the signed up teams to "practice" by having matches. Then, after 2 months, a tournment is held and a winner for the season is declared. The benefits to the teams involved are as follows:

1. Teams that may not hold many practices now are going to have a weekly match. This kind of friendly and loose competition is going make it more likely that teams in the second tier will play together more to build a greater esprit de corps.

2. Every month, one of these teams that has never won a Fortress Tournament! Think of the extra confidence and motivation they will have to play more pickup, challenge Top tier clans, etc.

3. There has been a real problem, that I have spoken about for 2 years now in the grooming and development of new teams. The FCL website is a wordpress site that will also have posts geared toward the new clans. I intend on quoting some of the old Playfortress posts as well as making new ones about basic strategies we all take for granted.

4. This is NOT as formal as a Ladle. Look at the site and the rules. It is deliberately not structured.
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