Now who's cherry picking? Seriously? I wrote all that, linking videos and everything, and this is your cherry picked response?kyle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:58 amI feel this way of thinking holds too many people back, yes there are certain mental illnesses, like dementia and Alzheimers that can't be broken, but that's because of a physical disorder of the brain. I think some disorders are trauma induced, yes hell to reprogram, but still doable, The real question is it worth it or not for this person.
Mental illness cannot be controlled
It's basic physics, really. It's not hard to understand. It takes energy to control something like this. You have to be on watch 24/7/365 to be able to "control" a mental illness. And you have to do it with the part of your brain that's not ill.
Your thoughts take the easiest path through your brain. This is basic physics, again. It's the lowest energy solution. You have to expend energy to force your thoughts into different paths through your brain. Again, basic physics. And, as a complicating factor, if you spend your whole life trying to "control" a mental illness, that actually inflicts trauma upon you, because it can't be done.
The only disorder that's directly trauma induced is PTSD, or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It's right there in the name. But we still don't understand why some people get it, and others don't. For example, back when I was fencing, which also coincides with when I was most active here (0.2.8/0.3 period), I was fencing with a guy with serious PTSD. The situation? Some lady who was Iraqi brought her Iraqi baby to his squad and asked for milk for her baby. Obviously this was in Iraq, and he was an Iraq veteran. Then she blew herself up. He survived, but was in ICU. Another squadmember didn't survive. Another was injured, and another unscathed. He was the only one with PTSD. Why didn't the others get it? One of them lost his legs in the explosion, and he didn't have PTSD. He had trauma, definitely, but the guy I knew was waking up in the middle of the night strangling his wife because he was still fighting the war.
A really great depiction of PTSD is in the first Rambo movie, First Blood.
Other mental illnesses are often triggered by trauma, like Major Depressive Disorder (mine, also triggered by trauma). Schizo-affective disorders are usually triggered by puberty, though. But there's still a strong hereditary component, meaning DNA, to all of this. I've met people who have been through worse than I have who had no mental illness whatsoever. I've also directly intervened in suicide attempts for people who have been through less. None of this is as simple as you want it to be.
I'd like to meet that person. I assume it's not you, but in the unlikely event it is, you have a relapse in your future.And like I said that eating disorder story is a real story. That person was also very fascinated with learning how the brain works.
Um, no, there's nothing mutually exclusive here. You can accept without understanding. This is part of treatment, teaching people how to accept without understanding. I don't need to understand why my ex-wife was abusive, I just need to accept so that I can move on. It's that simple, but obviously not that easy.These are mutually exclusive statements, I can still wonder and question anything I want, but I can also still be accepting of those people. Questioning how they got there does not make me dislike them.
I think you're being wildly arrogant here. You don't know anything about women, transgender women, or sports.I've been trying to decide if I say this here or not, probably very risky, but please be open minded, I'm trying to learn, but I think it's disrespectful to women, for a trans women, to compete in certain women sports. I am open to trans playing sports, but to me it punishes girls and women by allowing them.
Let me break it down for you.
FIrst, women and men aren't equal in sports because why? The answer is usually something about how men build up muscle mass. This is fine for things like Olympic weightlifting where muscle mass matters. It's also fine in American football to explain why a world-class athletic woman probably can't be on the line in football, but she could be quarterback or wide receiver or kicker. Obviously women aren't allowed to play those positions, even though they could. I mentioned fencing before. The bout I really loved the most is one where I lost. To a woman. Who was literally half my size (I weighed around 200, she was less than 100). She was faster with the blade, a smaller target, everything. A year ago, I was in the junior class and she was in the senior class, and I kicked the ever-loving shit out of her in a bout. Then she went and trained with the UT fencing club, and she kicked the ever-loving shit out of me. I loved every minute of it, and so did she. Not that I like losing. Anybody's who was on the grid with me at that time knows I don't like losing. I loved that she was so good at it. If I'm going to lose, I want to lose to someone who's really good at it. And we fought a few times after that, and she was definitely better than me, even though I'd beaten her a year ago numerous times (ok, maybe she had a crush on me, and that was why we kept fighting).
Fencing is a sport with a separate women's league, and the champion of the men's league is the one who's informally considered the best sword fighter in the country.
This is bullshit. In fact, the things that women tend to be better at than men show up in baseball. Hit a ball with a stick? There's no muscle mass involved, that's all technique. A woman could easily play MLB. But you know why women aren't allowed? Because men have to win.
Look at the academy awards to see what I'm saying. There didn't used to be a best actress category. Women were told if they acted well enough, they could win. Then, year after year, men were awarded the win. Women couldn't win. THere's no stupid muscle mass argument here. It was just sexism, plain and simple. So they created a category for women. Lately, there's been debate on creating categories for black people, because they win so few of the awards. It's not because of talent. It's never been about talent. It's always been about reinforcing a particular narrative on who's the superior people, men or women, white or black, whatever.
Second, the muscle mass argument. Many transgender women fail to transition the first time they take HRT. You know why? It's excruciatingly painful. It's true for transgender men, too. It's more pain than you've ever experienced. You've never experienced your muscle cells detaching and rearranging themselves. That's what happens in HRT. When a person born male, with male hormones, takes HRT, their muscles completely rearrange themselves. While under HRT, a transgender woman's muscles gain and lose mass exactly like a cisgender woman. That's what HRT does. Among other things. So, to the extent that the muscle mass argument is reasonable (it isn't), I'd support saying that trans women can compete in women's sports as long as they've been under HRT for like 2 years. Because at that point, their muscles are the same as any cisgender woman.
Third, sports. Women can excel and compete with men in any sport. Period. With the aforementioned exceptions of Olympic weightlifting, and possibly boxing. Women play differently than men, that's true. And I realize that allowing women to play alongside men would require completely rethinking how to play certain sports like basketball or football. I realize that. I guess men are just too ******* lazy to be willing to change how they play to be able to compete with women. In co-ed leagues that are male dominated, it's common for a group of women to come in and beat the every-loving shit out of the men by just playing differently. Waaaa. Deal with lag, mfers.
How about we quit coddling men and their precious little snowflake egos? Let the girls compete. Quit being a wuss. Grow the **** up.