god, lucifer & other sh*t

Phytotron · Post by **Phytotron** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:57 pm

here we go....

btw, there is no god

Post by **Lucifer** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:59 pm

Oscilloscope wrote:here we go....

btw, there is no god

There is only Zuul.

Luke-Jr · Post by **Luke-Jr** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:11 pm

Oscilloscope wrote:btw, there is no god

Do you enjoy advertising your ignorance or something?

Post by **Lucifer** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:13 pm

Luke-Jr wrote:
Oscilloscope wrote:btw, there is no god
Do you enjoy advertising your ignorance or something?

Given the choice, I think I'd rather people thought I was ignorant than superstitious.

Given the choice, I think I'd prefer to go to Hell rather than Heaven. If God exists, he is a fascist.

Of course, I don't spend a lot of time worrying what others might be thinking about me....

philippeqc · Post by **philippeqc** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:25 pm

Lucifer wrote:Of course, I don't spend a lot of time worrying what others might be thinking about me....

Me, I'm so afraid of them, I can't crawl from under my bed. What will "thou shall not judge"-"love and accept all"-"turn the other cheek"-"It's God job to separate the good from the bad, and even then, He loves us all" kind of people think of me should I think differently than them!

-Philippe "I'm shuffling my IP's address bits so you wont find under which bed I'm hiding" Villeneuve

Phytotron · Post by **Phytotron** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:30 pm

philippeqc wrote:-Philippe "I'm shuffling my IP's address bits so you wont find under which bed I'm hiding" Villeneuve

That makes me think...I probably shouldn't provoke someone with the computer, and presumably hacker, knowledge such as Luke-Jr.

Post by **Lucifer** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:43 pm

Oscilloscope wrote:
philippeqc wrote:-Philippe "I'm shuffling my IP's address bits so you wont find under which bed I'm hiding" Villeneuve
That makes me think...I probably shouldn't provoke someone with the computer, and presumably hacker, knowledge such as Luke-Jr.

Heh, why not? The only real risk is if it turns out his sense of absolute morality includes him having the right to hit first if he thinks you deserve it, but I don't think that's the case.

But then, if you start a fight with someone who has a moral sense that he shouldn't hit you first, you're just being a bully.

(Does Jesus think I'm a jerk, yet? I've been trying so hard for so long)

Phytotron · Post by **Phytotron** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:58 pm

Well, it was a bit of a joke (hopefully).

Luke-Jr · Post by **Luke-Jr** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:38 pm

philippeqc wrote:"thou shall not judge"

People shouldn't be judged, but actions certainly should be.

philippeqc wrote:"love and accept all"

1) love != accept
2) love the sinner; hate the sin

philippeqc wrote:"turn the other cheek"

unrelated

philippeqc wrote:"It's God job to separate the good from the bad, and even then, He loves us all"

And God gave us nice things like logic and reason to figure out His judgements.

Post by **dlh** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:48 pm

/me puts on flame-retardant suite.

People shouldn't be

I disagree.

judged, but actions certainly should be

Hmmm.......;

2) love the sinner; hate the sin

Agreed.

1) love != accept

But you cannot love without acceptance.

unrelated

Out of context.

And God gave us nice things like logic and reason to figure out His judgements.

Where is that huge "rolls-eyes" smiley?

Edit:

But hey, thats just my opinion.

Post by **Tank Program** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:16 am

Luke-Jr wrote:And God gave us nice things like logic and reason to figure out His judgements.

Did he? It is not up to us mere mortals to dechipher his will, or to presume ourselves capable of comprehending him to such a degree.

Post by **Lucifer** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:00 am

Tank Program wrote:
Luke-Jr wrote:And God gave us nice things like logic and reason to figure out His judgements.
Did he? It is not up to us mere mortals to dechipher his will, or to presume ourselves capable of comprehending him to such a degree.

That's right, it's up to us immortals. I tell ya, God's a fascist. Why do you think he had to put down the revolution? I wanted freedom for all, universal suffrage, and protection of basic Angel Rights that all immortals are entitle to. Did God like that? Nooooo. He had to kick me out and execute my generals.

But that's ok. With the exception of recent events in Iraq, my movement is spreading rapidly here on Earth. If Jesus ever manages to pull rapture, he's not going to have anybody to take to heaven with him.

Down, but not finished.
-Lucifer

Phytotron · Post by **Phytotron** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:41 am

Tank Program wrote:
Luke-Jr wrote:And God gave us nice things like logic and reason to figure out His judgements.
Did he? It is not up to us mere mortals to dechipher his will, or to presume ourselves capable of comprehending him to such a degree.

...or to presume that god, should one exist, is a male?

(Note: Logic and reason are possible because of the prefrontal cortex, which evolved along with the rest of the brain and body.)

Self_Destructo · Post by **Self_Destructo** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:07 am

First of all...... why did you guys go off topic..... maybe there should be more self control here.

Oscilloscope wrote: ...or to presume that god, should one exist, is a male?

God is a spirit.

And for you athiests...... do you know everything????? No! Then could God happen to exist in the part that you don't know? YES! Then don't say there isn't a God because He just might exist in the part that you don't know.

Post by **Lucifer** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:06 am

Self_Destructo wrote: And for you athiests...... do you know everything????? No! Then could God happen to exist in the part that you don't know? YES! Then don't say there isn't a God because He just might exist in the part that you don't know.

And on the other hand, the part that you place god may not actually exist. The scientific method, widely seen as the only way to acquire true knowledge of the world around us, has not been used to study this phenomena.

Whereas in the 2000 years or so since the last prophet, disciple, or whatever of God supposedly lived we have learned so much that with a few trinkets from a toy store, any one of us could pass as gods in biblical society.

Apparently while God gave us logic and reasoning, His followers seem unable to use either of these "gifts".