0.2.8 (beta 3 tagged)

[Luke-Jr]

Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure there's a way, but....

Just out of curiosity, why was that again?

So we don't list deprecated filepaths.

I don't think symlinks are the solution as easy as they are.

Lemme see.... (digs out apache manual)

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mo ... directperm

Put them in your .htaccess file and you don't have to restart the server.

Good idea.

edit: Obviously not for 0.2.8, but it would be nice if the game server would query the resource server. That way when it gets a relocated code and the new url it can update its own config file, or at least send an email to the admin. Same with clients, you know.

The default redirection is 'temporary', so it won't often be that way... it would also need some backfeeding from the resource manager to the game code. Is it worth it?

[Lucifer]

edit: Obviously not for 0.2.8, but it would be nice if the game server would query the resource server. That way when it gets a relocated code and the new url it can update its own config file, or at least send an email to the admin. Same with clients, you know.

The default redirection is 'temporary', so it won't often be that way... it would also need some backfeeding from the resource manager to the game code. Is it worth it?

Probably not? It would be a nice bit of polish, but whether it'll solve any real world problems remains to be seen. It's worth it to sit on it for awhile and let the resource system take hold and get widely adopted and then see if it's really a problem.

[Luke-Jr]

So, proposed restructure:
Current:

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map-0.1-exp.dtd  map-0.1.dtd

HexaTRON:
0.3.xml  0.4.1.xml  0.4.2.xml  0.4.xml

Luke-Jr:
CC-0.1.xml  CC-0.2.xml  CC-0.3.xml  CC-0.4.xml  scaley-a4-d10-s14-0.1.xml

Your_mom:
Pacmap-.5.9.xml   ironcross-.8.1.xml  repeat-.3.1.xml  spiral-0.2.xml
inaktek-.7.1.xml  quaddents-.4.xml    spiral-0.1.xml   tripath-.3.xml

n-gon:
40-gon-0.1.xml

original:
map-1.0.1.xml

New:

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map-0.1-exp.dtd  map-0.1.dtd

Luke-Jr:
HexaTRON-0.3.xml  HexaTRON-0.4.1.xml  HexaTRON-0.4.2.xml  HexaTRON-0.4.xml
CC-0.1.xml  CC-0.2.xml  CC-0.3.xml  CC-0.4.xml  scaley-a4-d10-s14-0.1.xml

Your_mom:
Pacmap-.5.9.xml   ironcross-.8.1.xml  repeat-.3.1.xml  spiral-0.2.xml
inaktek-.7.1.xml  quaddents-.4.xml    spiral-0.1.xml   tripath-.3.xml

Anonymous:
40-gon-0.1.xml   original-1.0.1.xml

(doesn't take into account the poll for n/v, n/n-v, and n-v)

[dlh]

My delete key has turned into a space key.

[Z-Man]

Lucifer: That's fallout from the timeout increase, but I really wonder how it could become an infinite loop. Revert to the version of eGameObject from the root of the branch for now, I'll investigate.

Nemo: I see it, too. Can you assign me a bug report? It's probably related to the relaxed character filtering.

[Z-Man]

Luke:
You and Your_mom can organize your files as you want, but the Anonymous folder surely needs at least one level of structure. Who knows what else will be put in there later? Category/Group should be mandatory there.

I'd gladly support .map.xml and the like, too. It's as close to perfect as we'll ever get.

[philippeqc]

Luke:
You and Your_mom can organize your files as you want, but the Anonymous folder surely needs at least one level of structure. Who knows what else will be put in there later? Category/Group should be mandatory there.

z-man, I think here luke just said "here are the folders where files belong. We only need to agree on the sub folders scheme".

extention in the form of .map.xml are good.

my vote goes to E) [C) is just a badly defined form of E, without categorisation by type].

-ph

[dlh]

Z-man, here is a recording of me going through a bot's wall on your test server. I said "BUG" and then left the server and re-entered (started recording)

Edit: A bot going through my wall (or someones)

[Z-Man]

Nemo: Thanks, I'll check it out. Notification worked

z-man, I think here luke just said "here are the folders where files belong. We only need to agree on the sub folders scheme".

Ah, then that's fine, of course.

my vote goes to E) [C) is just a badly defined form of E, without categorisation by type].

Actually, I'll have to modify it in light of .map.xml to
f)EntityName/[SubCategory]/FileName-Version.FileType.ext
to stop Luke from screaming that it's redundant SubCatetory would be optional, for the author to decide, and only used for really large entities with ten or more files.

[dlh]

Here is another one, it seems to happen at the beginning of round more frequently.

[philippeqc]

my vote goes to E) [C) is just a badly defined form of E, without categorisation by type].

Actually, I'll have to modify it in light of .map.xml to
f)EntityName/[SubCategory]/FileName-Version.FileType.ext
to stop Luke from screaming that it's redundant :) SubCatetory would be optional, for the author to decide, and only used for really large entities with ten or more files.

good. get my vote also. Those are all forms that I agree with.

to recap:
{Anonymous,Author,Clan,Server}Name/[Category/[SubCategory/[...]]]EntityName/[SubCategory]/FileName-Version.FileType.ext

(any errors are mine and not comments)

-ph

[Z-Man]

to recap:
{Anonymous,Author,Clan,Server}Name/[Category/[SubCategory/[...]]]EntityName/[SubCategory]/FileName-Version.FileType.ext

Yes, if AnonymousName == Anonymous I think we should leave the whole [Category/[SubCategory/[...]]]EntityName/[SubCategory] -part as freely configurable by the author in the category/group tag of the file. The only other choice would be to split it up in three parts and assemble them later, which does not add a benefit in my eyes.

We should also encourage authors to choose unique Author/FileName.FileType pairs. Then we can give the resource browsers the ability to show only the latest version of a resource regardless of how it was moved around in different revisions.

[Z-Man]

New client built today. When I join a server and the game runs a little bit, then it locks up completely. If I'm in fullscreen mode, I can still kill my X server with the three finger salute.

Fixed. I learned my lesson not tho trust floats. Obviosly, if you do

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float x = someValue;
float y = x;
if ( x != y )
    std::cout << "The Pope is a Protestant.\n";

for some values of someValue and sufficient optimization flags, your computer will tell a lie. I did not know it was THAT bad.
Besides, I fixed the inner error that was causing the endless loop in the first place.

[Luke-Jr]

New client built today. When I join a server and the game runs a little bit, then it locks up completely. If I'm in fullscreen mode, I can still kill my X server with the three finger salute.

Fixed. I learned my lesson not tho trust floats. Obviosly, if you do

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float x = someValue;
float y = x;
if ( x != y )
    std::cout << "The Pope is a Protestant.\n";

for some values of someValue and sufficient optimization flags, your computer will tell a lie. I did not know it was THAT bad.

Well, technically there is no Pope of the Catholic Church at this time. The protestant Conciliar Church has their Pope Benedict XVI, though, so you could say "The [Conciliar] Pope is Protestant" and not be lying.

[Lucifer]

New client built today. When I join a server and the game runs a little bit, then it locks up completely. If I'm in fullscreen mode, I can still kill my X server with the three finger salute.

Fixed. I learned my lesson not tho trust floats.

Passed basic sanity test (played 1 round ).

I don't trust any numerical type where you can add 2 and 2 and get 3.99999999999999.