fudx@lycos [SPLIT]

[DrunkDuck]

Yea it encrypted all the pdf files so we couldnt open them anymore. But we do back ups daily so i only lost all the data from the past 24 hours. Now we have blocked internet and they are still trying to find out from where we got this virus, facebook, gmail, etc. First it scared me because i logged to the tron forums and it all started couple hours later. But i am sure it has nothing to do with that.

thanks al for the helpful replies

we finally got rid of this lycos

[ConVicT]

I can't update to Windows 8.1 because my graphics driver (AMD Catalyst) causes the laptop to be unable to shut down properly

That's what I use, thanks for the heads up!

[Light]

Works fine with my AMD drivers. No issues with shutdown at all.

[Word]

Yeah, I suppose it's Dell-only, and limited to those 2013 laptops.

[/dev/null]

For an easy way to fool viriis vm detection routines on windows, just install a cygwin enviroment, basically all of the advantages of nix, but in a windows system. Generally (This is just general, im sure there is an edge case somewhere) most virii with routines to protect against windows removal techniques have zero ******* clue how to fight back against a cygwin setup. Its quite useful for removing crap from a system you cant just wipe.

There is also another nuke, but its truly a nuke, itll either fix it, or break your system quite badly. It is this

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/

THIS IS A LAST RESORT.

If it doesnt work, itll **** your system right up, like unbootable up. Also its logs are esoteric and basically impossible to understand without a lot of knowledge. However, it is also a literal nuke.

This is the guide to it, its not terribly helpful to the average user besides instructions on how to run it.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofi ... e-combofix

[sinewav]

It just sounds like their change to how they did the blocks and whatnot is a dislike for you.

It just sounds like? This is no trivial matter. The interface redesign completely changes the out of box functionality of the operating system. Like I said, the only reason I'm able to work with it is because I'm a master with the keyboard, and even then using that system is problematic. They also moved and/or renamed many administration tools and control panel plugins. It's ridiculous. We all know just how bad it is compared to the other versions of Windows. Even today there are still more people using XP than Win8. That's a colossal failure. It's not really fair to say "Win8 is just another version of Windows." I'm speaking as an expert user who has been using Windows since 3.1.

[/dev/null]

Windows skips a version, always has
win 1, great
win 2, crap
win 3, great
win95, crap
win98, great
winme, crap
xp, great
vista, crap
win 7 great
win 8 crap
win 10 great?

Dont even get me started on the "server" versions.

They skipped 9 for technical reasons, they were worried too many programs check for windows 9* due to 95/98 And I dont blame them. Microsofts backward support is the envy of all operating systems, they still support ******* dos.

[ConVicT]

When people get this thread on google when they get the virus, they're going to click it for help and end up with help on which version of Windows to get.

We also already have a thread for this, although it could have a better title. Maybe just "Windows Discussion"

[/dev/null]

When people get this thread on google when they get the virus, they're going to click it for help and end up with help on which version of Windows to get.

English, obviously not your strong suit. Its kind of cute that you think this will be the first result for virus cleaning though. Its not even the first result for tron, its not even on the first page last time I looked.

I just looked in fact, and GLTron comes up before us. Thats hilarious. We show up on page 10.

http://i.imgur.com/kuC0sSR.jpg

[ConVicT]

When people get this thread on google when they get the virus, they're going to click it for help and end up with help on which version of Windows to get.

English, obviously not your strong suit. Its kind of cute that you think this will be the first result for virus cleaning though. Its not even the first result for tron, its not even on the first page last time I looked.

I just looked in fact, and GLTron comes up before us. Thats hilarious. We show up on page 10.

http://i.imgur.com/kuC0sSR.jpg

Was I typing in Spanish?
Like me, people might look through a lot of pages before trying something, and I also usually like to find a thread on a forums that has been resolved.
I just prefer my solutions coming from people that I can ask further questions.

I like Yahoo Answers, that's helpful at times.

Just a fyi, I've actually googled something and this forums came up in the first page of results, and I got my help from here (and, no, I didn't google armagetron).

[Monkey]

Microsofts backward support is the envy of all operating systems

I disagree. Certainly in the open source world, backward compatibility is much less important. This is because most open source software is continuously maintained and, for the stuff that isn't, there is almost always a better alternative. There may be the odd exception to this but I can't think of one.

[sinewav]

This is because most [open source] software is continuously maintained and, for the stuff that isn't, there is almost always a better alternative.

Apples and Oranges.

I'm a big fan of Windows backwards compatibility and legacy support. I have data that is older than many of the people on this forum that I still need to access occasionally. In fact, last month I was working on a remix on an old song I wrote and needed to export MIDI data from a file I created in 1995. Thanks to Windows XP I was able to do it (though I do have a laptop with Win98SE as a backup if XP can't accomplish the job).

Also, I had to use Win8 for a couple hours today. Holy shit it sucks.

[/dev/null]

as for the open source end, an easy example is python. There is a damn good reason why gentoo had to invent slotting, and it isnt because the open source world has great legacy support.

Continuously maintained, there was a time when this very game was getting dropped from most distros for being unmaintained. The problem is its always a convoluted process to move from one program to another. Sometimes its just straight impossible, depending on the level on interest in said program.

My statement about windows legacy support stands. Windows does that aspect right, and has for decades. I can grab a program from the 90s and run it on modern windows without much hassle, try that on unix or linux.

[karas]

gz nagi!!!!!!!

[Monkey]

I hear what you guys are saying, however the point is that times are changing for the better. Open source has not only given us alternative software but also open standards, which include file formats that, even if they become obsolete, will still be accessible for an extremely long time. Also, more and more old proprietory formats can be accessed too. Thanks to open source software and open standards, the need for supporting legacy software, while still existant, is diminishing.

Apples and Oranges.

How?

I was working on a remix on an old song I wrote and needed to export MIDI data from a file I created in 1995.

Are you saying the data was in a proprietory format initially? Are you sure there are no open source programs that could access that format? Ardour is a pretty good DAW btw.

python

Installing multiple versions of python is trivial on any decent open source OS.

The problem is its always a convoluted process to move from one program to another.

This used to be the case but nowadays it's a lot easier. More importantly, the need to change is becoming less and less as time goes on.

I can grab a program from the 90s and run it on modern windows without much hassle, try that on unix or linux.

The whole point I'm making is that I wouldn't need or want to. I, like you guys, have been using computers for many years (over 30 years in my case) yet the current state of open source meets all of my computing needs, including accessing old code and data. Hopefully, in a few years, it will meet all of your needs too.