Tron Police!

[Word]

Crazy idea: Have the devs draft a virtual certificate/contract for server owners wherein they voluntarily guarantee a certain amount of community control (e.g. playing open is only mandatory in the server when the settings support that; server admins check arma forums or their server's site and try to create a good climate when they are in their server; have at least a certain amount of active moderators etc.) and somehow highlight that in the server list. Not in an elitist way but so that everyone can easily obtain one. Start with Yellow Submarine. Perhaps reward mods with a special GID. Crazier idea: Have clan/server-independent moderators who have certain powers in every server - optional or mandatory for people for agree to that contract.

It would be similar to the system we already have in place for ladle servers, but on a bigger scale.

A voluntary tron police.

Now take that and advertise Armagetron by showing a progressive way to change gaming culture.

[blondie]

satire surely

[Word]

Well, I'm undecided myself...

[Tank Program]

satire surely

[Kinda Slow]

But the graphic is great!

[kyle]

But the graphic is great!

[Word]

Yes, I felt like nobody paid attention to that in the other thread

[Durf]

I did, just too late. Didn't see this thread til after. :s

I actually had a similar idea a while back. Not sure if I posted it.
But when I had this idea, it wasn't limited to server owners (anyone could help, server or not).

The idea came from a group of tronners (inactive now) called "Sirs" (like knights).

Isn't it possible to include a CFG file from an online resource? (I thought it was - with access levels...keep in mind idk what is setup already for ladle)
So a new global ID wouldn't be necessary since there could just be an online CFG file that server owners can choose to include.

Then you get the problem of which access level to give who.. Do you make these volunteers admins? mods? team leaders? (though this can be overwritten in the individual server settings)

Worse yet is when you want one to have an ability to do something, but not another. Then you have to juggle with all the access level settings and you MIGHT get the combination you want. (I have a way to structure access levels differently to solve that issue, but I'm not sure it will be implemented)

Plus, how would you determine who would get accepted into this 'police' department?
The way that Sirs group was done, you needed a certain number of nominations (from anyone).
I mean, don't you think trolls would volunteer? Would you make them tron police officers?

Also, how can you guarantee that the police will uphold the server's rules? What if they don't? Or what if they enforce their own rules? What if one of them becomes a problem? How would you suggest going about to remove them?
(Ideally, there would be help messages they would read - a server policy to abide by and enforce)
(A vote within the police department itself would be elitist IMO - so I suggest a vote from withing the police department to determine if there will be a public vote on a particular officer; whether or not they should stay.)




Overall, I think it is a great idea and very possible to accomplish.
I don't think this is too different from the idea you tried to describe (if it is, my bad - I'd like to know how yours is different).
I especially agree with:

... advertise Armagetron by showing a progressive way to change gaming culture

My only concerns are...well I mentioned them.


P.S - hehe I like to photo. That's been my 404 page for some time now.

[kyle]

Yes, I felt like nobody paid attention to that in the other thread

This thread and that thread were both new for me the same time i checked the forums

[compguygene]

Well, let's talk about this. This could be a good idea. It also could be started by the community, and if it is accepted by many server owners, the devs could decide to add the functionality you have mentioned.
Everything we need to create a central file exists now, as does the system to manage the auth's, no need for a special authority. You could just use the Global ID's that the mod's in question have now.
The only real question is if server owners actually would be willing to participate. We would need to walk a fine line between allowing freedom of expression and stopping the bs. But, the right people could do that and help mold the Armagetron Community, if there is the support from enough of the influential server owners.
Do keep in mind that this is only going to work with servers that have Armathentication installed. I think that the default dedicated server build does not. A couple of popular servers out there like "The Toble of Doom" do not use Armathentication. In those cases, it would be best if we can persuade and assist those server owners to setup their server binary accordingly.

[ConVicT]

Could also say that server owners should make themselves know and should have some sort of perk in the forums, like, IDK, name colour or some shit.
Just something that defines them! (Same kind'a way mods are blue).

[Vogue]

Well, let's talk about this. This could be a good idea. It also could be started by the community, and if it is accepted by many server owners, the devs could decide to add the functionality you have mentioned.
Everything we need to create a central file exists now, as does the system to manage the auth's, no need for a special authority. You could just use the Global ID's that the mod's in question have now.
The only real question is if server owners actually would be willing to participate. We would need to walk a fine line between allowing freedom of expression and stopping the bs. But, the right people could do that and help mold the Armagetron Community, if there is the support from enough of the influential server owners.
Do keep in mind that this is only going to work with servers that have Armathentication installed. I think that the default dedicated server build does not. A couple of popular servers out there like "The Toble of Doom" do not use Armathentication. In those cases, it would be best if we can persuade and assist those server owners to setup their server binary accordingly.

no

@Word, no.

[Amaso]

Good to see the black tronner not getting arrested this time ya know.

[Phytotron]

It's really not a terrible idea, depending on its implementation. Anyone can put up a server, but there would be certain ones given a special badge, like an endorsement, representing a guarantee that certain standards will be maintained within those servers.

Trouble is, I just don't think this community could get it together to make something like this work properly. The community has degraded to such a point, both in quantity and quality, that I don't even think there are enough decent people/owners to be a part of it.

[Durf]

It's really not a terrible idea, depending on its implementation. Anyone can put up a server, but there would be certain ones given a special badge, like an endorsement, representing a guarantee that certain standards will be maintained within those servers.

Trouble is, I just don't think this community could get it together to make something like this work properly. The community has degraded to such a point, both in quantity and quality, that I don't even think there are enough decent people/owners to be a part of it.

I agree (100% with your first paragraph), though I don't think things have gotten to a point where they can't be fixed.