LETE wrote:The only problem I have with abortion is when women use it as a form of birth control. If a woman is raped, I can see her wanting to abort. And if the baby is going to be born without a brain or something like that which makes their life impossible anyway, well duh. But when women are just go around la-di-da, and don’t avoid pregnancy, I’t really isn’t their place to kill something like that for their own stupidity. People just need to be a little more responsible for themselves, so we don’t have to go through these crazy discussions.
What about men that coerce women into getting abortions because they don't want to abandon the kid?
Personally, I'll take abortion over the alternatives. Let's look at the alternatives, shall we?
1. Teenage girls getting shipped off to some "school", forcably by their parents, where they're forced to have the kid and then the kid is dumped into the adoption system, leaving the girl no choice of her own.
2. A return to the complete subjugation of the female species.
3. Toilet deliveries (need I say more?).
4. Women going over the border to have it done by outlaws (this was common before the Roe v Wade decision, more than a quarter of the women were killed by complications, many more were raped, and still many more were abducted and they probably made snuff films out of them).
You know, what really irritates me is that the two sides would rather polarize than get any real work done. Have any of you actually read the Roe vs Wade decision? It gives the feds specific areas where they can legislate abortion. They can, for example, make it illegal to partially deliver a baby and then suck its brains out and toss it on the floor to see if it lives (partial birth abortions). They can regulate abortion to "make it safe", for example by only allowing licensed doctors to do it. Right now, anyone in a white coat can do it. They can also regulate it to provide accountability for the thing. I'm sure that'll comfort some women who go to Planned Parenthood without speaking a lick of english for a regular checkup only to find they're suddenly not pregnant anymore (true story).
Abortion itself isn't nearly as monstrous as the fight over it. All this bickering has created a stalemate with neither side willing to give an inch for fear of losing a mile. Neither side is working within the letter or the spirit of the Roe vs Wade decision. And in the process, millions of women who think it's a perfectly safe procedure are finding themselves dealing with multiple miscarriages after the fact, and in some cases sterility. R v W gives the feds a way to regulate the practice that would eliminate 90% of the dangers to the woman getting an abortion (and please don't be so naive to think it's a perfectly safe operation). Of course, that would eliminate 99% of the arguments the so-called pro-lifers put forth to try to ban the practice altogether.
This all-or-nothing approach by both sides is the real problem.
) They've also sent cameras up there and determined that inside the womb, the little pockers are walking and crawling and jumping and playing (I shit you not!). Apparently all that laying around and "development" they do after birth is really recovering from the trauma of birth rather than acquiring new skills.
If it were up to me they never would have come up with the idea, its all to voodoo taboo, I don't know, I kind of feal violated because somehow this whole thing came about and we all had to choose sides, when, at least I, don't want any part of it. 
