As a member of a "stronger team" at the moment, I disagree. The hard matches against equal opponents are the best!Tobe wrote:Sure, getting rid of seeds will suck for the stronger teams since they are more likely to face a team of equal skill early on
Counter tactics time!Concord wrote:I think part of the dilution of the ladle has come from center attacks. They determine so much of the game, that often the winning team did not outplay their opponent, they just outcentered them. If you can advance in ladles without being better, positions 1-6, than your opponents (or without proving it), why should your opponents respect your victory as meaningful? They shouldn't. Centering is overpowered and overinfluential to match outcomes. We have all been in matches where the centers determine each round. It cheapens the game for the other 10 players on the grid. We should strongly consider changing the map. My suggestion would be the zones be offset. The spawns would be outside of them, but the spawns would remain in the same spot they are now. The zone would be to the left of position 6. I attached a bad drawing of what i mean.
I'm probably going to get a loud backlash on this point from the good centers out there, and that is understandable. It must be great to have so much influence over the match. I don't blame you for yelling at me for suggesting we reduce it. I think, if you really think about it, you will at least understand my reasoning.
Use a center trap so the opponent doesn't center! Might even get you some free kills! (was used by uNk last ladle)
Or train your def+sweepers to bottle & block centers and followups! If you do it right and kill the center and maybe even a followup guy who wants to sneak in, which my team did quite often last ladle, you get a free 6v4 sometimes!
It's difficult to deal with, I agree, but by far not impossible.
Tweaks to the ages old map layout though? Hell yeah, why not?
(while hitting preview i see conc's post got edited so my quoted stuff is a bit old, but I still agree to try the map change suggestion)