Alpha Project

[Z-Man]

My login is very relevant to the game (my servers)

Yeah, that's a bit of a problem. If they're just intended to be primarily used on your servers, they're not exactly universally relevant. Plus, with a little code hack, you can give them a shorthand form on your servers already.

and I've already gotten many people who have logged into my website and have powers on my servers.

17 (at this time) is not exactly a crowd yet...

When will he be available?

We don't know No worries, we have backup plans.

[LOVER$BOY]

Yeah, that's a bit of a problem. If they're just intended to be primarily used on your servers, they're not exactly universally relevant. Plus, with a little code hack, you can give them a shorthand form on your servers already.

No no... I think you misunderstand me. I meant that the logins are to be used primarily in my server otherwise I'm happy for people to use it elsewhere or in different servers like what many of the members are doing right now.

17 (at this time) is not exactly a crowd yet...

Maybe not but it's a start

We don't know No worries, we have backup plans.

That's good to hear

[LOVER$BOY]

I finally set up wiki for my alpha project. The link to it is here: Alpha Project Wiki

Well from 2morrow I'll disappear form 3 weeks. These 3 weeks I'm going on vacation but Alpha Project will still continue to exist even without me as long as there are those who wish to keep it running

See you all later and hopefully I'll have more members then. 20 right now

[LOVER$BOY]

I'm back from my vacation and am planning on making the project even better.

First I've gotto wait for the website to come back online and then anything else

[LOVER$BOY]

Website back on and the new idea is ticking away. I got approval of my hoster fman but he says it'll take him some time to get it done cause he has real life commitments as well.

30 members and more would be coming soon

Z-Man, how many people do you reckon I would need before the project is eligible for having the short hand login?

[compguygene]

Z-Man, how many people do you reckon I would need before the project is eligible for having the short hand login?

You should keep in mind a couple things that have been said.

1. Your authority would need to be for more than just people that are admins/mods on your servers.

2. I could fulfill all the conditions with http://idclansite.info, which has been around as a forum for many years, and is open and used by many more people than just the ID Clan (no, I see no reason to do this, just sayin'). However, even if I asked Tank Program to do it, which is the ONLY person that can easily do this, Tank is NOT around at this time. The same will be true for you.

3. Why the hurry for a shorthand name? Get people using it with the domain name for now, and then you will develop the proof you need later for a shorthand name.

[LOVER$BOY]

Your authority would need to be for more than just people that are admins/mods on your servers.

Actually, everyone who has registered on my website instantly get moderator powers (3rd class). I'm using three different levels for moderator levels:

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3rd Class: Level 4 (Default): Project Moderator: Beginner
2nd Class: Level 3: Project Moderator: Intermediate
1st Class: Level 2: Project Moderator: Professional

These three are there as trust builders. Everyone registered (by default) get Level 4 powers. So far there are only four members to have 2nd Class that's because they are active players. The way to get to the 1st Class is by being active on the forums (whether posting non-related stuff or helping out with the project things like reporting in abuses and stuff like that).

I could fulfill all the conditions with http://idclansite.info, which has been around as a forum for many years, and is open and used by many more people than just the ID Clan (no, I see no reason to do this, just sayin'). However, even if I asked Tank Program to do it, which is the ONLY person that can easily do this, Tank is NOT around at this time. The same will be true for you.

WOW! That's quite good! Ya Z-Man said Tank's away but he said he has alternate ways of doing it...

Why the hurry for a shorthand name? Get people using it with the domain name for now, and then you will develop the proof you need later for a shorthand name.

idk... I think it became an obsession for me ever since I found out that I can get short hand login instead of the long winded login that we use:

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@alphaproject.au.tc

I'm also desperate to make Alpha Project as good as Crazy Tronners and also known to many players out there playing at whatever time they play at. You're right... I think I should keep it going right now the way it is going (get more members and players obviously) and see where it takes me. After all... no one knows what the road ahead will be like until you move.

Thanks for your advice compguygene

[LOVER$BOY]

People, please read this and tell me how it is: http://alphaproject.au.tc/index.php?top ... icseen#new

[compguygene]

I like the idea. I would be willing to wear the tag at times. It would not be a problem with my ID membership.

Now take the idea to the next level. Don't just let people "wear the tags". Make people actually apply to wear the tags. The benefit of the tags would be to have mod, admin, whatever in your servers if they login with your authority. If you go this route, I would be willing to donate additional server slots to the project.

[LOVER$BOY]

Awesome!

Thanks for the development of the new idea although... how do i make sure they are wearing the tag when they login using my url?

[compguygene]

You can't using normal Armagetron Commands. You could write a parser script to automatically rename people, but really, that's not the way to approach this. Remember, I said you should have people apply to wear the tags? Well, as part of the "rules", you should be required to wear the tags whenever you use the login. The idea is to get people to wear the tags because they want to wear them.
Another thing you can do is setup a server that only people that use the login can play. Ideally, a multi-mode server.
It also wouldn't hurt to organize a team and organize tournaments for the team to play in.
With all that, and a few unique servers, you would be following my plan that I have always had if ID ever folded. Personally, I would love to help you create a unique group like this, if only so I could be a part of this and ID.

[LOVER$BOY]

WOW!

That's quite an advanced thought you had gone through for me compguygene ...

So how do i generate the interest to wear the tag because u said they will need to want to wear the tag?

I'm still a little confused how the tags come in when logging in using my authority...

With all that, and a few unique servers, you would be following my plan that I have always had if ID ever folded. Personally, I would love to help you create a unique group like this, if only so I could be a part of this and ID.

That would be wonderful!

BTW... I'm not that good when it comes to PHP coding. I can do some but not a lot...

[compguygene]

Forget about how to write a php script to rename people. Just know that it is possible. My point is that tags should be a social thing. Let me elaborate:

If you are wearing the tags, and somebody asks you about it, you explain that you are a group that is open to anyboody, even people that are in clans. You should make it clear that the tags are about having fun, and to advertise the unique servers of the Alpha Project. Also, anybody who is approved to wear the tags can organize "Alpha Project" tournaments, or form a team for anybody who wears the tags to participate in a tournament. As a bonus, anybody who wears the tags can become a moderator in the Alpha Project Moderator.
The key here is NOT to require people to wear the tags! You are not making a clan, you're making a group, based around fun, not a bunch of rules or a mandate to win. In other words, people will want to wear the tags to show that they are part of a cool group of fun players.
Another thing you can do is make a multi-mode server that you have to be somebody who is authorized to wear the tags to be able to play. This way you can attract people that are in clans, but want to have more fun! People, like myself, that are in a clan will probably not wear the tags very much outside of the Alpha Project servers, but when we do, everybody will ask if we left our clan. When we tell them about the tags, that will pique their curiosity.
To really make this fly, I can contribute some unique Low Rubber, and Medium Rubber servers to complement the focus that the Alpha Project has on High Rubber. That way we can attract people from ALL of Armagetron, not just HR/DF players.

Does that help to flesh out the idea some?

[LOVER$BOY]

Very ingenious! That's definitely something I never thought of. However, shouldn't I have some basic rules about the minimum requirements one would need to have those powers in the servers and about not abusing those powers? Like this: http://alphaproject.au.tc/index.php?top ... rdseen#new

WOW! Can you really do that for me compguygene? If you can, I would really appreciate that because I'm not able to find a hoster for the rest of my project servers

[compguygene]

As to the rules, looks good.

As to the hosting. Its really not a problem. I have plenty of unused capacity. The price is not money, but you will need to learn how to access them. There is no webcontrol and that is deliberate. The servers they would be hosted on are only used for tron, nothing else. We could arrange via pm to meet in a teamspeak server I will put up, and if you install teamviewer, I can help you through the learning process. You just need to learn to use a few basic Unix commands and to use WinSCP, if you use Windows, or Cyberduck, if you use Mac.