Modern Warfare 3

[Word]

Assassins Creed is different from that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgPoxpSobrA#t=3m32s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjwJI8T6kjg#t=2m52s


Every target gets personal psychological treatment. Pretty much like Batman...

[syllabear]

The first half is valid (and I reckon it describes not only the characters but the players' attitudes as well), but he lost me when he started in with the homophobic stereotypes. Macho insecurity, yes. Rambozo-ism, yes. "Homoerotic," no.

I think he was not being totally serious in the latter half.

[þsy]

Yeah I read that haha, he raises some good points. I think Call of Duty is not so bad because it is violent, but because it normalises violence and the concept of war. I was doing a protest action against the manafacturing of drones, which have a ridiculous civilian death rate, and some guys were like "whatever man war is cool, 'UAV online, bang bang har har har'". It also makes things like the Iraq war seem pretty harmless and fun, which is terrible!

I don't think violent films and games are necessarily the primary factor towards this desensitised attitude to war, but it looks like people in the 70s and 80s were all about peace and fighting against wars happening (I dunno I wasn't alive..). When did we stop caring about this stuff!?

[Clutch]

All I can say is, I understand you might not like the game itself because of the violence, which is cool, everyone has different tastes, but I think you guys are overreacting. COD is kind of a morbid concept I suppose, if you want to approach it like "It's a game where you shoot people for fun". It's more about strategy, talking with friends, getting into the story, and yes, the thrill when you kill someone and get points. It depends on how you approach it. I don't think "Man, I'm going to go gun some guys down!" when I'm about to game out, I think of the story, about what's going to happen next. And as to it desensitizing you to killing, I'd say doubtful. I'm against the death penalty, I've never had any inclination to go shoot someone, hell I can barely watch the news because of all the gross murders and stuff I hear about.

[Phytotron]

Speaking of UAV's, you know what they use to control those? Playstation-like controllers.

And of course there's that free FPS the US Army developed as a recruiting tool. Useful and effective way to jumpstart the process of stripping one's individuality, and the conditioned dehumanisation of the "enemy" (and themselves) that's openly drilled into the minds of impressionable teenagers during basic training. Which, by the way, stipulates no distinction between soldiers and civilians ("the only good [current relevant slur] is a good [slur]"), which is part of why civilian casualties always outnumber that of enemy soldiers.

but it looks like people in the 70s and 80s were all about peace and fighting against wars happening

Uh, no. Not having been born yet isn't an excuse; you can read history.

And a lack of historical knowledge doesn't help your credibility when protesting against something, either.

[Kijutsu]

I love violent games. It satisfies my urge to kill people in real life.

[syllabear]

Speaking of UAV's, you know what they use to control those? Playstation-like controllers.

To be fair, playstation is owned by a private company, so they're going to have to design the most optimal hand held controlling device for situations in game, such as UAV control. And we all know where profits are involved, private companies will produce a result

("the only good [current relevant slur] is a good [slur]")

Did you mean the only good [current relevant slur] is a dead [slur]? Am actually confused about this otherwise lol

but it looks like people in the 70s and 80s were all about peace and fighting against wars happening

Uh, no. Not having been born yet isn't an excuse; you can read history.

And a lack of historical knowledge doesn't help your credibility when protesting against something, either.

I don't think he was supporting wars, I think he was trying to fit into the "nicest tronner" bracket and go against them (despite his age/lack of historical knowledge)

[Scofield!]

Is it just me or is multiplayer recycled as **** ? apart from campaign, the rest could jst as easily been downloadable content as far as i'm concerned

[Phytotron]

Speaking of UAV's, you know what they use to control those? Playstation-like controllers.

To be fair, playstation is owned by a private company, so they're going to have to design the most optimal hand held controlling device for situations in game, such as UAV control. And we all know where profits are involved, private companies will produce a result

Not sure what you're saying. I'm talking about real life, not the game. The US military uses controllers that resemble PS2 or Xbox 360 controllers, made by military contractors like Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin, to control their UAVs.

("the only good [current relevant slur] is a good [slur]")

Did you mean the only good [current relevant slur] is a dead [slur]? Am actually confused about this otherwise lol

Yeah, that's what I meant.

but it looks like people in the 70s and 80s were all about peace and fighting against wars happening

Uh, no. Not having been born yet isn't an excuse; you can read history.

And a lack of historical knowledge doesn't help your credibility when protesting against something, either.

I don't think he was supporting wars, I think he was trying to fit into the "nicest tronner" bracket and go against them (despite his age/lack of historical knowledge)

Not sure what you're saying here, either. I didn't get any impressions he was supporting war, either (rather, the opposite). I was contradicting psy's misconception that "in the 70s and 80s people were all about peace and fighting against wars happening." That definitely wasn't true of that time. And that he didn't realise that isn't excusable by his not having been born yet.

And what I mean by it hurting his credibility, is that if he were to attend a demonstration or protest action, find himself having a conversation with an opponent, and say something like "people in the 70s and 80s were all about peace and fighting against wars happening," he would get laughed at and dismissed as some naive kid not knowing what he was talking about—even if he was right on the merits of whatever he was protesting. You gotta know your shit.

[F0RC3]

Honestly, everyone who said he shouldn't make a new topic is bsing themselves, that other topic is littered with bullshit past the first page. and this is a different question/statment than what was said in the other topic.

anyways. no it doesn't play the same. new single player. new specops+surivival+online co-op for specops. online multiplayer now has several different strike packages. 16 new maps. new sounds, different weapons, elite communicating with it, theater mode+ more theater modes spots than blops and longer uploadable gameplay, stopping power is built in to weapons, most weapons are balanced(pistols and shottys are pretty under powered but thats it oh yeah p90 is op) cool new equipment like trophy system, emp grenade, bouncing betty, etc. i guess it plays somewhat similar, but most cods feel atleast a little similar to its predecessors but each one has a new and different playstyle, especially with sitrep pros ability to cancel out dead silence.

it should not have been dlc and is completely worthy of a new game

[Clutch]

When I'm playing NHL 11 and then I decide to play NHL 12, there's huge notable differences. When I play Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 3, it feels the same.

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[-az95-]

i think quickscoping and the gunplay feels the same as modern warfare 2. i do like the new additions to the tactical equipment and how the gun attributes are built into the weapons, like you said. plus, survival mode is just plain awesome xD. anyway i thought it was way worth the money, and im probably going to log over a month of gameplay into it xD